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To: gleeaikin

I had to search the web, as last year China was on pace to build a new coal plant every ten days for the next 8 years or something.

But now I see that they ARE closing up some of their facilities. And it doesn’t look like just for short-term weather conditions either.

A friend said the smoky skies of the American West from all the forest fires remind him of China!


8 posted on 08/08/2015 1:54:43 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: 21twelve
A friend said the smoky skies of the American West from all the forest fires remind him of China!

There is a huge difference in burning coal and burning coal with scrubbers on line to clean up the emissions. However, pollution abatement equipment is very expensive and complex to operate. If the scrubber equipment goes down, the electric generating plant cannot generate without polluting.

Wonder how many plants in China are required to have operating pollution abatement equipment on line?

By the way, CO2 is not a pollutant, no matter what the EPA says.

11 posted on 08/08/2015 4:19:18 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( Megyn made the debate about her petty gripe. She failed miserably. She choked, choked like a dog!)
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To: 21twelve; gleeaikin
The Chinese have tons of coal, the Aussies and others have more to sell them, and there is not much gas in China. They are actually building coal gasification and pipelines to keep the pollution down in the cities. But make no mistake, other than hydro and big plans in nuclear, they are and will be a coal burning country.

Here are the facts about their CO2 production (due to coal and high inefficiency): http://www.eia.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/iedindex3.cfm?tid=92&pid=46&aid=2 Between 2007 and 2011 they made zero progress in efficiency. They still created 3 times more CO2 per dollar of GDP than we did. That means anytime the idiots suggest moving more industry to China (mainly by raising energy prices here), you need to point out that the net result will be 3 times more CO2 worldwide.

16 posted on 08/08/2015 6:12:08 AM PDT by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet into FlixNet)
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