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The Teen Who Exposed a Professor’s Myth [About Anti-Irish Discrimination]
The Daily Beast ^ | 8/1/2015 | Ben Collins

Posted on 08/04/2015 6:21:28 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

The Internet has been buzzing about how discrimination against the Irish was a myth. All it took was a high schooler to prove them wrong. Rebecca Fried had no intention of preserving the record of a persecuted people whose strife was ready to be permanently written off in the eyes of history as exaggerated, imagined, or even invented.

That's because Rebecca was too busy trying to get through the 8th grade. In 2002, University of Illinois-Chicago history professor Richard J. Jensen printed “No Irish Need Apply: A Myth of Victimization.” His abstract begins: “Irish Catholics in America have a vibrant memory of humiliating job discrimination, which featured omnipresent signs proclaiming ‘Help Wanted—No Irish Need Apply!’ No one has ever seen one of these NINA signs because they were extremely rare or nonexistent.”

In short, those famous “No Irish Need Apply” signs—ones that proved Irish Americans faced explicit job discrimination in the 19th and 20th centuries? Professor Jensen came to the blockbuster conclusion that they never existed...

(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybeast.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: catholic; discrimination; ireland; irish; nina
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1 posted on 08/04/2015 6:21:28 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
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To: Jan_Sobieski

There were also signs that said, “No Micks on the grass.” Irish were called Micks, because so many of their last names started with Mc.


2 posted on 08/04/2015 6:25:30 PM PDT by abclily
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Personally when I saw something excerpted from that book (I’m sure it was), I thought there has to be something to it.

Indeed, people DO tend to keep telling stories until they are turned into truth. It has happened many times, until the truth was forgotten.


3 posted on 08/04/2015 6:29:57 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Summary: 14-year old (eight grader) found enough information to create a scholarly article disproving entirely a “typical” biased PhD’s claim that Irish segregation and prejudice did not exist in America.

With the guidance of a different professor, her article and research were published.


4 posted on 08/04/2015 6:31:39 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I had ancestors who were put on a train with a label saying “Lake County Oregon” to deliver them to a prearranged job. They were not to be let off anywhere in route. They and the railroad laborers were not given much White Privilege.


5 posted on 08/04/2015 6:32:52 PM PDT by JimSEA
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6 posted on 08/04/2015 6:34:26 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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7 posted on 08/04/2015 6:35:41 PM PDT by 11th_VA ("We're not gonna take it ANYMORRRRRE !!!")
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Welcome to the club. The same crew of liberals opine that the Holocaust was not discrimination and Jews always had it easy.


8 posted on 08/04/2015 6:38:58 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I’m not sure I by this because the use of “No Irish Need Apply” was so commonplace and prevalent in that era that Mark Twain used it twice in “Scotty Briggs and the Clergyman” as a slang way of agreeing, or saying “amen”.

Obviously then, it was not quite that rare.


9 posted on 08/04/2015 6:41:17 PM PDT by Ronin (Blackface or bolt-ons, it's the same fraud. - Norm Lenhart)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Leftists have been rewriting history for decades. They also enjoy slamming our history, judging our ancestors by the social mores of today. STOP IT!!


10 posted on 08/04/2015 6:41:18 PM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George OrwellSTOP IT)
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To: abclily

As opposed to “Mack” for the Scots.


11 posted on 08/04/2015 6:42:40 PM PDT by HandyDandy (Don't make-up stuff. It just wastes everybody's time.)
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To: abclily

I saw a sign in a cafe window in London in 1995 saying “No Micks”. 1995!!!!


12 posted on 08/04/2015 6:43:27 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: the OlLine Rebel

The “blankets infected with smallpox” used to exterminate Indians was based on a single incident - and blown into a widespread campaign of germ warfare by a fake Indian (Ward Churchill?)

Repeat the lie often enough and it becomes the truth...


13 posted on 08/04/2015 6:43:50 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Same folks who say anti-war protestors never so much as spat on a soldier.

Of course they did crappy research.


14 posted on 08/04/2015 6:44:51 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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“After only couple of hours Googling it, Rebecca, a 14-year-old, had found out these signs had, in fact, existed all along. Not only in newspaper listings—in which they appeared in droves—but, after further research, in shop windows, too.”

Where is this article? Where is the actual physical evidence?

I’d really like to see how actual SIGNS are verified. Did she find some in someone’s attic?

Where is this article so I can see just how she proves him all wrong?

‘“It was out of the blue on May 1st, May Day—which is sort of fortuitous, now that I think about it,” says Miller. May Day is International Workers’ Day, which celebrates laborers worldwide.’

oooohhhhkaaay.....

Gives me great boost of confidence in the motives.

“She then makes a salient point: Even if it were 15 recorded instances per year or 1,500—the signs existed, the persecution was real, and discrimination of the Irish was not an imagined feeling, but a reality difficult to both express and quantify.”

Not salient. It INDEED matters how many/% exist; typical liberal thoughts “if just one....”. Any given thing always has 1 example, but that does not prove its prevalence; in this case, not ipso-facto “discrimination”.


15 posted on 08/04/2015 6:45:09 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: abclily

Hmmm. I thought it would be O’s.


16 posted on 08/04/2015 6:45:57 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I'm fed up.)
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To: kearnyirish2

That’s what I mean.

Never mind the truth (?) about the Constellation, about the Titanic, or myriad other things either broadly “known” or “known” within a community.


17 posted on 08/04/2015 6:47:11 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: originalbuckeye

Have you read the article?

Quite a few references to Laborers in there....who is the leftist?


18 posted on 08/04/2015 6:48:14 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Irish lives matter the most. IMHO


19 posted on 08/04/2015 6:52:14 PM PDT by HandyDandy (Don't make-up stuff. It just wastes everybody's time.)
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To: HandyDandy

Aye; God’s people...


20 posted on 08/04/2015 6:55:34 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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