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What the Israelis Have Learned
National Review ^ | 8/4/2015 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 08/04/2015 4:59:53 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross

Will Israel do the unthinkable to stop the unimaginable?

The Obama administration seems peeved that almost everyone in Israel, left and right, has no use for the present Iranian–American deal to thwart Iran’s efforts to get the bomb.

Indeed, at times John Kerry has hinted darkly that Israel’s opposition to the pact might incur American wrath should the deal be tabled — even though Kerry knows that the polls show a clear majority of Americans being against the proposed agreement while remaining quite supportive of the Jewish state. President Obama, from time to time, suggests that his agreement is being sabotaged by nefarious lobbying groups, big-time check writers, and neoconservative supporters of the Iraq war — all shorthand, apparently, for pushy Jewish groups.

Obama and his negotiators seem surprised that Israelis take quite seriously Iranian leaders’ taunts over the past 35 years that they would like to liquidate the Jewish state and everyone in it. The Israelis, for some reason, remember that well before Hitler came to power, he had bragged about the idea of killing Jews en masse in his sloppily composed autobiographical Mein Kampf. Few in Germany or abroad had taken the raving young Hitler too seriously. Even in the late 1930s, when German Jews were being rounded up and haphazardly killed on German streets by state-sanctioned thugs, most observers considered such activities merely periodic excesses or outbursts from non-governmental Black- and Brownshirts.

The Obama administration, with vast oceans between Tehran and the United States, tsk-tsks over Iranian threats as revolutionary hyperbole served up for domestic consumption. The Israelis, with less than a thousand miles between themselves and Tehran, do not — and cannot.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iran; israelis; learned

1 posted on 08/04/2015 4:59:53 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross
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To: Servant of the Cross
Will Israel do the unthinkable to stop the unimaginable?

Needs to be better worded:

Will Israel do what is necessary when Iran does the expected?

2 posted on 08/04/2015 5:06:37 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Servant of the Cross

They should also learn what we’re told in the book of Daniel, we know both sides have an ulterior motive and are being less than honest, Israel is in their cross-hairs,

“And both these kings’ hearts shall be to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time appointed.” Daniel 11:27


3 posted on 08/04/2015 5:26:08 AM PDT by captmar-vell
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To: Servant of the Cross

Why are Americans & Israelis against the plan to keep Iran from getting a bomb? What plan is in place to do this? What about “side plans” they won’t talk about? I think people are against this “plan” because they don’t see it offering anything for anyone but Iran.


5 posted on 08/04/2015 5:38:35 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: A Vaster RightWing Conspirator
Unlike Israel who doesn’t have nukes and will never have nukes because that would force an automatic stop to the billions the US is giving Israel for its self defense...

I thinks you mean 'Israel won't use nukes' without a doomsday threat to Israel. Israel does indeed have nukes, and almost certainly more advanced ones than in the US arsenal. There's no 'automatic stop' to US aid because most of that money is spent with American companies and enhances their profits.

6 posted on 08/04/2015 5:51:25 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: A Vaster RightWing Conspirator

Uh, Israel has nukes; even the Pentagon has acknowledged this.


7 posted on 08/04/2015 6:38:13 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: A Vaster RightWing Conspirator

The United States. Our embassy is considered to be our soil.

I believe the Iranians invaded it in 1979.


8 posted on 08/04/2015 6:40:26 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: rjsimmon

I try to think of a simpler analogy. Compare Iran to a neighborhood berserker, who routinely beats his wife badly for wearing “immoderate” clothes, has killed one of his own children for being homosexual, and in the past has killed neighbors he got into arguments with (the Iran-Iraq war.)

This guy is now standing on your property line with a gun in his hand. He is shouting that he is going to kill you, your wife, and all your children.

Do you shoot him now, because of his threats, coupled with his violent history, coupled with his having the very visible ability (the gun) to carry out his threats? Or do you wait until he starts killing your family?

Oh, you’ve already called the cops, and they delivered extra ammunition to the ranting neighbor.

Is this a hard question to answer?


9 posted on 08/04/2015 7:28:55 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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