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Four dead in Legionnaires' disease outbreak in New York
CNN/AP ^ | August 2, 2015 | David Shortell,

Posted on 08/03/2015 6:56:42 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

New York (CNN)—The number of deaths in the New York City Legionnaires' disease outbreak is up to four.

Seventy-one cases of the flu-like disease have been reported since mid-July in the South Bronx, up from 31 on Thursday, the city Department of Health and Mental Hygiene said Sunday.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: disease; health; legionnaires; nyc
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"The city health department continues to employ disease detectives."

Who ya gonna call? DiseaseBusters.

1 posted on 08/03/2015 6:56:42 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; ..
Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

2 posted on 08/03/2015 7:05:28 AM PDT by null and void (If the government can't protect the Marines, how can we expect it to protect us?)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I read somewhere that Legionarre’s never disappeared. What’s not common is identified clusters. Does it sometimes get diagnosed as pneumonia?


3 posted on 08/03/2015 7:08:38 AM PDT by grania
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To: null and void

I can take a joke like the next man, but this just isn’t funny...


4 posted on 08/03/2015 7:19:28 AM PDT by jasbd1985
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To: ConservativeStatement

There is a link between water temperature and fine spray shower heads. Low water temps, i.e. energy saving, allow the bacteria to grow and fine spray, i.e water saving, shower heads aerosolize the bacteria allowing it to be inhaled. Once in the lungs it enters the blood stream.

Neat uh? Some cities and hotel chains recognize this and keep their water hot. To prevent scalding they install special valves.


5 posted on 08/03/2015 7:21:11 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: jasbd1985

No, not funny. Vicious disease.


6 posted on 08/03/2015 7:29:27 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: jasbd1985

It’s not meant to be funny.

The last time somebody got all pissy I added the last four paragraphs in an apparently vain attempt to explain the purpose of the ping list (which has been running for nearly a decade).

You are the third (or perhaps fourth? I don’t bother counting) person to complain in all that time.

Do you believe FReepers do not deserve a heads up when there is a disease outbreak in their own back yards or what?

Consider growing a thicker skin.

Good day, sir, GOOD DAY!


7 posted on 08/03/2015 7:37:59 AM PDT by null and void (If the government can't protect the Marines, how can we expect it to protect us?)
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“I read somewhere that Legionarre’s never disappeared. What’s not common is identified clusters. Does it sometimes get diagnosed as pneumonia?”

It is a pneumonia. Many years ago, 1976, when this was first identified in a large group at a convention in Philadelphia, Penn., my husband was there at a business meeting, not part of the convention, but stayed in the same hotel where people caught it, and he caught it and brought it home to me. It was like an extremely bad flu/chest involvement that didn’t want to get better. I had it for weeks but wasn’t hospitalized.

At that time, they determined this bacteria had grown in the air conditioning system, the cooling tower, in the hotel and was dispersed throughout the hotel so people were breathing in this bacteria constantly and that’s why so many became ill. The below is from the United States Department of Labor:

Legionellosis is a common name for one of the several illnesses caused by Legionnaires’ disease bacteria (LDB). Legionnaires’ disease is an infection of the lungs that is a form of pneumonia. A person can develop Legionnaires’ disease by inhaling water mist contaminated with LDB. LDB are widely present at low levels in the environment: in lakes, streams, and ponds.

At low levels of contamination, the chance of getting Legionnaires’ disease from a water source is very slight. The problem arises when high concentrations of the organism grow in water systems. Water heaters, cooling towers, and warm, stagnant water can provide ideal conditions for the growth of the organism.

Scientists have learned much about the disease and about LDB since it was first discovered in 1976. This outbreak occurred in 1976, in a Philadelphia hotel where the Pennsylvania American Legion was having a convention. Over 200 Legionnaires and visitors at this convention developed pneumonia, and some died. From lung tissue, a newly discovered bacterium was found to be the cause of the pneumonia and was named Legionella pneumophila.


8 posted on 08/03/2015 8:12:05 AM PDT by Marcella (TED CRUZ ; Prepping can save your life today.)
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To: null and void

Like I said, I understand a joke when I see one. I must have interpreted your post incorrectly as a sad attempt at humor. Perhaps it was the picture from a very famous comedy that you posted in reference to a disease outbreak that has killed 4 people.

Your post was tasteless.

Consider growing a thicker skin.


9 posted on 08/03/2015 8:14:06 AM PDT by jasbd1985
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To: null and void

“Good day, sir, GOOD DAY!”

LOL! Perfect. :)


10 posted on 08/03/2015 8:25:49 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: null and void

I’ve seen your picture of the dead a long time and know what you mean. However, could you make the wording below the picture larger so Freepers can see it better to read it? Some Freepers won’t take the time to concentrate and read the small print.

I’m a detail person and would read it if I had to transfer it to my computer and enlarge the whole thing. I also click to go to the original article and read the entire article before I post. Most people don’t have this impediment I have to get the whole story or they don’t have the time to do it. :o)


11 posted on 08/03/2015 8:28:48 AM PDT by Marcella (TED CRUZ ; Prepping can save your life today.)
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To: Marcella

Thank you for that information.


12 posted on 08/03/2015 8:52:22 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: grania
I read somewhere that Legionarre’s never disappeared. What’s not common is identified clusters. Does it sometimes get diagnosed as pneumonia?

An eye opener

"When the CDC personnel arrived, pre-positioned EIS members such as Beecham and top health adviser Robert Sharrar stopped obeying local authorities and began following orders from the incoming CDC team. The CDC began fomenting wild rumours that this "Legionnaire's disease" was the beginning of the swine flu epidemic. The media proved cooperative; the New York Times assigned none other than Lawrence Altman, an EIS alumnus, to cover the story.

With nationwide hysteria rapidly developing, Congress suddenly changed its mind and approved the swine flu vaccine. Some 50 million Americans were inoculated over the next several months, ultimately producing at least 1,000 cases of severe nerve damage and paralysis, dozens of deaths, and nearly $100 million in liability claims. Meanwhile, within days of the legislative approval, the EIS team finally acknowledged the pneumonia was not related to swine flu, but the announcement came too late.

13 posted on 08/03/2015 9:08:19 AM PDT by Stentor ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.")
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To: Bigg Red

“Thank you for that information.”

You are welcome. Since it is a bacteria and not a virus, antibiotics will kill it if the person lives long enough for the antibiotic to kill it. Of course, persons with some kind of lung problem to start with, are more likely to die.


14 posted on 08/03/2015 9:28:20 AM PDT by Marcella (TED CRUZ ; Prepping can save your life today.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

Legionnaires Ping....


15 posted on 08/03/2015 10:10:21 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: jasbd1985

Where were you when nully was posting the same image through an Ebola outbreak that killed over 10,000 and continues to infect people in West Africa? Or is your thin skin just over this one pathogen? Go watch some Monty Python and lighten up, Francis.


16 posted on 08/03/2015 10:19:34 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Stentor

Interesting example of ‘political science’, thanks.


17 posted on 08/03/2015 10:21:24 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

It always seems to be in multi-unit facilities water tanks.

Another good reason not to live in rack and stack cells like our libtard masters want.


18 posted on 08/03/2015 10:33:03 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Good point!


19 posted on 08/03/2015 10:34:54 AM PDT by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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To: Marcella
Marcella, thank you for that source information. When I got very bad pneumonia almost six years ago now, I collapsed and ended up in the hospital. There was some speculation that it was Legionairre's that was magnified by dairy fat which caused the infection to grow out of control.

I don't think the hospital ever checked to confirm if those of us in the same predicament were a Legionairre's cluster. They certainly never did check where we'd been or what we'd recently eaten.

My experience makes me pretty sure Legionnaires is quite common.

They scraped my lung (most not all of the infection) and I survived the hospital stay. But, it's a forever thing to be very careful about what I breath and what I consume.

20 posted on 08/03/2015 10:41:32 AM PDT by grania
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