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To: Guenevere

I have no love for the founder of the KKK. However, I understand history, and I understand ghoulishness.

If I lived in Memphis, I would be willing to stand guard, armed, and ready to shoot any ISIS/Taliban wannabes that would approach the grave.

This Orwellian crap is disgusting.


3 posted on 07/24/2015 3:52:55 AM PDT by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: Crazieman

If socialists have no respect for the living, not even babies, why would anyone expect them to have respect for the dead? It is an old story, desecrating the things held sacred by those that don’t follow their ideology. Just moving closer to the day they hope they can outright murder non-socialists.


5 posted on 07/24/2015 4:02:10 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: Crazieman

We are not just talking about a Statue, this is the Grave site of Gen. Forrest and his wife. This was grave desecration besides vandalism.

In order to remove the graves they have to have permission from the General’s family to move the graves. Or if the family refuses they have to go to Chancery Court. And from the State to Move the Statue. LAW signed by Bill Haslam (RINO), Effective as of April 1, 2013 called the “Tennessee Heritage Protection Act” NO military memorials can be removed including those from the ‘War Between the States’ !
http://www.tn.gov/sos/acts/108/pub/pc0075.pdf


8 posted on 07/24/2015 4:58:00 AM PDT by GailA (If You don't keep your Promises to Our Troops, you won't keep them to anyone. Ret. SCPO's wife)
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To: Crazieman

Look I’m from Tennessee....
we are proud of our Southern heritage.....

From my early childhood I’ve heard some stories about the Klan.....
I believe their actual organization began after the Civil War to help displaced families ......
The South was on its knees......Homes and crops burned out.....our soldiers returning home to ...nothing.....Families starving

I’m not excusing them for any crimes......

But even Wikipedia admitted that Forrest might not have been as involved as revisionists say

NO ONE has any right to disturb our statues.....Our museums.....Our graves......Our history


9 posted on 07/24/2015 5:00:57 AM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do........Psalms 11:3..An Appeal to Heaven)
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To: Crazieman

Interesting article on NBF - comments are interesting too:

http://the-american-catholic.com/2010/08/06/nathan-bedford-forrest-and-racial-reconciliation/


18 posted on 07/24/2015 5:30:51 AM PDT by poindexters brother
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To: Crazieman
have no love for the founder of the KKK.

Then you might be interested to know that NBF renounced the KKK after it was hijacked by racists. And in fact in his later years he became a patron of poor blacks in Memphis.

Forrest's speech to the Independent Order of Pole-Bearers Association July 5, 1875.

Introduction: "A convention and BBQ was held by the Independent Order of Pole-Bearers Association at the fairgrounds of Memphis, five miles east of the city. An invitation to speak was conveyed to General Nathan Bedford Forrest, one of the city's most prominent citizens, and one of the foremost cavalry commanders in the late War Between the States. This was the first invitation granted to a white man to speak at this gathering. The invitation's purpose, one of the leaders said, was to extend peace, joy, and union, and following a brief welcoming address a Miss Lou Lewis, daughter of an officer of the Pole-Bearers, brought forward flowers and assurances that she conveyed them as a token of good will. After Miss Lewis handed him the flowers, General Forrest responded with a short speech that, in the contemporary pages of the Memphis Appeal, evinces Forrest's racial open-mindedness that seemed to have been growing in him."

Ladies and Gentlemen I accept the flowers as a memento of reconciliation between the white and colored races of the southern states. I accept it more particularly as it comes from a colored lady, for if there is any one on God's earth who loves the ladies I believe it is myself. ( Immense applause and laughter.) I came here with the jeers of some white people, who think that I am doing wrong. I believe I can exert some influence, and do much to assist the people in strengthening fraternal relations, and shall do all in my power to elevate every man to depress none. (Applause.) I want to elevate you to take positions in law offices, in stores, on farms, and wherever you are capable of going. I have not said anything about politics today. I don't propose to say anything about politics. You have a right to elect whom you please; vote for the man you think best, and I think, when that is done, you and I are freemen. Do as you consider right and honest in electing men for office. I did not come here to make you a long speech, although invited to do so by you. I am not much of a speaker, and my business prevented me from preparing myself. I came to meet you as friends, and welcome you to the white people. I want you to come nearer to us. When I can serve you I will do so. We have but one flag, one country; let us stand together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict. Go to work, be industrious, live honestly and act truly, and when you are oppressed I'll come to your relief. I thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for this opportunity you have afforded me to be with you, and to assure you that I am with you in heart and in hand. (Prolonged applause.)

"Whereupon N. B. Forrest again thanked Miss Lewis for the bouquet and then gave her a kiss on the cheek. Such a kiss was unheard of in the society of those days, in 1875, but it showed a token of respect and friendship between the general and the black community and did much to promote harmony among the citizens of Memphis."

http://www.tennessee-scv.org/ForrestHistSociety/forrest_speech.html

19 posted on 07/24/2015 5:41:20 AM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: Crazieman; All
As you can see from this Bristol News (Bristol, TN, 1877) clipping near the bottom, Gen. Forrest was admired by the black community at the time of his death.

"He was a warm friend of the colored race, over whom he exercised remarkable influence"

NBF obit, Bristol News, 1877 photo NBF_obit_BristolTNnews_zps42zsenay.jpg

24 posted on 07/24/2015 9:32:39 AM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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