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Can Congress stop the Iran deal? [Obama's Veto Pen looms]
Hotair ^ | 07/14/2015 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 07/14/2015 8:21:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: mmichaels1970

Sort of.

The President has certain inherent authorities under the Constitution and precedent to act as Commander in Chief and as the authority to conduct US foreign policy. The ability to make “agreements”, which ate not official treaties and can be immediately undone (either by the President who makes them or by a successor) is roughly the same as with EOs and goes backnto George Washington.

Additionally, under laws passed by Congress the President has unilateral authority to impose and revoke certain sanctions. These are two of the big things at play here. And neither requires Congressional approval.

The third thing is that, I believe, some of the sanctions on Iran do require Congressional approval to revoke. Question is whether Obama promised Iran this would happen. Or whether Iran will allow those to stay in effect in order to get the bigger deal.


41 posted on 07/14/2015 9:12:24 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: A Navy Vet
My only hope left now is Israel.

This "agreement" puts Israel in a terrible, terrible position. It Israel does nothing, Iran WILL some day - perhaps soon - boldly announce that it has nuclear weapons.

But if Israel strikes, it will be cast as an outlaw nation, one that ignores international agreements just as they are beginning to do some good (yeah, right).

Israel may well end up as old South Africa did, shunned by all, under trade embargo by the rest of the world. Who would speak up for Israel then? The US? Britain? France? Nope, nope, and nope.

42 posted on 07/14/2015 9:13:35 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: pgyanke
WHAT PLANET AM I ON??!!

We are all on the Obama Death Star and plunging toward the Sun.

And perhaps the Son.

43 posted on 07/14/2015 9:13:50 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: SeekAndFind

Bump


44 posted on 07/14/2015 9:30:29 AM PDT by CPT Clay
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To: Mollypitcher1

Prob is, it won’t do any good. Once sanctions are lifted, the “snap back” clause is a joke, neither China nor Russia would re-agree to that.


45 posted on 07/14/2015 9:36:20 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else)
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To: SeekAndFind

With McConnell and Boehner in charge? no, or rather, COngress can stop it but will not.


46 posted on 07/14/2015 9:47:41 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true!)
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To: SeekAndFind
I noted a typo early on in that article.

Now that the P5+1 and Iran have inked a deal that will unleash Tehran from decades of international sanctions, the agreement has to go before the legislatures in Iran and the US. The  former latter is a mere formality; if Supreme Leader  Ali Khameini Dear Leader His Purple-Lipped Majesty Undocumented Usurper-in-Chief Barack Hussein 0bama likes the deal — and there’s zero reason to believe that  Iranian negotiators Secretary of State Lurch would have acted without his express permission — then the  Iranian parliament Establicment GOP controlled Congress will rubber-stamp it.

FIXED IT.
47 posted on 07/14/2015 10:11:34 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Leaning Right
" This "agreement" puts Israel in a terrible, terrible position. It Israel does nothing, Iran WILL some day - perhaps soon - boldly announce that it has nuclear weapons."

Personally, I believe Mossad has very detailed plans on how to deal with Iranian nukes. They re-vote Bibi back into office because they live their threats from the surrounding neighbors every day.

"But if Israel strikes, it will be cast as an outlaw nation, one that ignores international agreements just as they are beginning to do some good (yeah, right)."

And they should give a sh*t, why? Even the most liberal Israelites believe in - NEVER AGAIN! You think Imperial Japan was radical enough to put boys on the front, watch what Israel will do.

"Israel may well end up as old South Africa did, shunned by all, under trade embargo by the rest of the world."

Well, that's going to be difficult for the world as Israel is on the cutting edge of technology, including medical advances, not to mention becoming self-sufficient with their newly found oil/gas reserves and desalinization plants. Although the US still gives them money and weapons (much to Obama's chagrin), they are now developing their own state-of-art weapons.

South Africa was and still is a backward corrupt African nation, which ones aren't? Apples and Oranges. Israel is not apartheid, as much as the Palis and UN like to claim. They won their terrority fair and square in the numerous wars with the Arabs. Plus, Egypt is now working with Israel more than ever.

48 posted on 07/14/2015 10:19:39 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet
Apples and Oranges. Israel is not apartheid...

Oh, I agree! My point is not that Israel is similar to the old South Africa. My point is that if Israel strikes Iran, the world will use that as an excuse to treat Israel like the old South Africa.

49 posted on 07/14/2015 10:26:36 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: 2banana

I don’t believe POTUS can veto a Congress consent vote of “no.”


50 posted on 07/14/2015 10:37:05 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: okie01
If Congress disapproves by a simple majority, then Obama can veto the disapproval. Congress must then override the veto by a 2/3 majority to make the disapproval stick.

This is not our system of government.

51 posted on 07/14/2015 10:54:19 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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