[BuffaloJack]

I thought that only Congress could ratify treaties, not the President.

[Logical me]

I thought that only Congress could ratify treaties, not the President.

Not with this dictator King. He crushed both the House and Senate and if they do not cooperate he will regulate using committees.

[Cboldt]

The Senate, but yeah.

I'll have to think about whether or not this is a treaty. I'm thinking things like ABM traty, non-proliferation treaty, NAFTA, etc, where there is some bilateral dealing.

Compared with the no-fly zone (around Iraq) and other activities that are a show of military force and will.

That said, the legislation to allow the president to act in a "persistent" way, on 35% approval in Congress, was really stupid.

[MN_Mike]

Problem being that McConnell and his minions negated the treaty in favor of an executive agreement

[KC Burke]

Obama was going to unilaterally work the sanctions down as a trade deal with executive action if he was not given a compromise on how to push a treaty through the Senate. McConnell caved with conservatives opposing the legislative deal six months ago.

[CWW]

Congress does have the right to approve treaties with a 2/3 vote. But Senate Republicans gave away the game through the Corker bill that now allows automatic approval agreement unless the House and Senate can come up with a veto-proof majority. That means the GOP would have to flip 14 Dem. Senators and 44 Dem House member. Good luck with that.

Gee, thanks, Corker - you idiot!

[Georgia Girl 2]

“I thought that only Congress could ratify treaties, not the President”

Well you would be right. Obama is and has been trying to call this Iran Nuclear Deal an Executive Agreement which does not require ratification. In actuality with 5 other countries in on the deal its a Treaty. The Senate should have insisted that its a Treaty and required ratification. Instead they too the coward’s way out and invented this convoluted legislation which waters down their ratification power and IMO is totally unconstitutional.

[FR_addict]

I follow politics pretty closely, but this one got by me. I remember when Corker was on television supporting his new bill. I didn’t think much about it and didn’t realize he had just reversed how a trade deal was handled.

In effect, the Senate gave Obama the right to do trade deals without a 2/3rd majority of the Senate. A lot of us are just now waking up to what the Corker bill really did. It should be illegal for the Congress to pass something that goes against our Constitution without making it a Constitutional Amendment.

[Timber Rattler]

McConnell and Boehner gave away that power back in May. Has everyone already forgotten?