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To: Solson

I don’t care about Jonah or his butt hurt at NRO. Jonah’s not running. The NRO is not running.

I only care if you can actually refute any particular thing. Apparently, you have answer that no, you cannot, so you’ll sink to personal attacks on Jonah.

The first Trump supporter to respond made an honest and intellectual response. I disagree, but I respect it. You, on the other hand.....


28 posted on 07/13/2015 9:37:54 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I support what Trump is saying because it needs to be said by someone with a national audience. The left has untold numbers of people that get people talking about even the most radical leftist talking points. I say let Trump be our fringe guy with an audience.
I will write in Ted Cruz in 2016 no matter who the republicans nominate.


102 posted on 07/13/2015 10:03:55 AM PDT by subterfuge (Minneseeota: the laughingstock of the nation - for lots of reasons!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Do you think I give two ***ts what you think of my posts? And why do you presume I'm a trump supporter?

I am in one sense - he has captured the attention and focus of SO many in a way no one else has been able to do. Moreover, he is upsetting the establishment. That, in and of itself, is worth his candidacy and refutes a key point that Goldberg has been trumpeting. As far as a "personal attack" on Jonah - it is no secret that Jonah has a "personal" issue with Trump so me thinks thou doth protest too much.

IF you read the Loesch quote, you would also realize that refuting the Jonah article is moot. NOW, Jonah is throwing up the cautions about a potentially moderate candidate when he CLEARLY didn't give a damn about Romney, McCain, Dole, Bush or Bush. So before "refuting" his points, I question his motive! You really think Jonah and NRO is now the purveyor of truth as it relates to vetting "Conservatives"?

IF so, where the hell have they been for the last 15 years? hell, where have they been for the last 8 months???

They, like the rest of the chattering-"hold your nose and vote"-"we know better" crowd are now all up in arms over Trump.

They are attempting to use Trump's political stances of the past to deny him the opportunity to upset the process. They ARE MISSING THE POINT!

AS to refuting the specifics in this article - well let's play your stupid f-ing game "C. Edmund Wright" - purveyor of all things right and decent and judge of all other things which might offend you -

The first 13 paragraphs are Jonah attacking trump on nothing of substance but indeed, firing back because the Donald dare go after Jonah.

Jonah then brings up Trump's use of his wealth. Jonah fails to point out the initial use, in the political arena Trump, where started to talk about his personal wealth was to illustrate that he could not be bought by special interests. Go ahead, look it up.

I'll even provide the link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/06/16/full-text-donald-trump-announces-a-presidential-bid/ - a little more than half way down the page.

So Jonah's butthurt about Trump talking about his money. Refuted.

Immigration - Trump has said he's in support of a path to citizenship. Yep. So have most other candidates AND it continues to be debated by many "conservatives" on the right way to solve the problem - which is two or three fold. So yes, Trump supports a path. He also supports a REAL border AND he supports penalizing Mexico. Sounds pretty conservative to me.

Abortion - he was pro-choice and now he's pro-life. Romney was the same. Oh Jonah, where were you then?? That's right "proudly voting for him."

He praised Hillary and he also praised Obama. He supported Hillary's 2007 socialized medicine plan. But, Jonah, you "proudly voted for" the guy who actually implemented this before Hillary - Mitt Romney.

At least Trump learned his mistakes and realizes what a disaster Obama and Obamacare have been. or was that not the point Jonah?

Now Jonah goes after Trump for his economics. This is where Jonah REALLY exposes the fact he has never had to work a day in his life but lives in the bubble of "think tanks" and DC-insidership. In the business world, you take advantage of the cards you are dealt. I don't fault Trump, in the least, for leveraging lobbyists and emminent domain to grow his empire. He played the cards that were dealt by the very politicians Jonah infers are better than the guy doing the deal.

It's crystal clear Jonah doesn't actually know the business world at all. At least Trump doesn't try to lie or hide or obfuscate his business dealings. It's why businessmen are more "transparent" than politicians and political analysts - because their results can be measured. Jonah is mouth piece who has never had to worry about being right. He doesn't need to be. If you're wrong in business, you suffer the very real aspects of losing money.

That's about the only points to "refute" in the article. The rest is Jonah...being Jonah.

248 posted on 07/13/2015 12:56:41 PM PDT by Solson (Grand Old Party 1854 - 2010 RIP)
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