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Equality versus liberty: Which one worries voters most?
KMGH-TV's Decode DC ^ | July 9, 2015 | Dick Meyer

Posted on 07/09/2015 4:43:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Economic populism is having a moment of celebrity these days. But so is economic gluttony.

These conflicting impulses – equality versus liberty – have been in constant competition. For some, equality of opportunity and outcomes is the ultimate political value; for others, it is liberty, which is degraded when property rights are too restricted by taxation and regulation.

There is a view in both parties that voters are in an egalitarian mood. I don’t buy it.

The icon of economic gluttony in politics today is Donald Trump, however grotesque and trivial that may seem. Trump is doing well in the attention-deficit-disordered world of public opinion polls. Yes, it’s a fluke that will pass. Still, Americans admire the mega-rich and don’t resent them. The unprecedented wealth accumulated by the economy’s top 1% in the past few decades without much protest is real world, hard data proof of that.

Economic populism is hot in the form of Bernie Sanders. Sanders stands for old-fashioned Robin Hood egalitarianism – take from the rich and give to the rest. Sure there are other reasons for his boomlet; he isn’t a Stepford candidate and he isn’t Hillary. His message matters though.

It would have been bizarre if no populist wave emerged from the left.

For a decade, there’s been a relentless march of data and reports about the widening gap between the super-wealthy 1% and 99%. The decline of the middle class’ income and wealth since the 1980s is felt by most every voter except the poor, who have had it much worse. The cold facts have begun to turn the American Dream of upward mobility into an American Fantasy.

Yet voters rarely rank inequality high among their worries, so politicians give lip service. They are rarely rewarded when they reach for more.

In December 2013, President Obama, for example, threatened to make income and wealth inequality his new cause. He proclaimed “a dangerous and growing inequality” was “the defining challenge of our time.”

The opposition reacted with predictable scorn. “Obama returns to class warfare as poll numbers plunge,” ran the headline in The Washington Times. The “class warfare” line became the GOP party line. Obama’s populist push pooped out.

But something has changed. It must have, because the rhetoric of 2016 candidates has changed and they are experts at sniffing the wind.

Instead of condemning economic inequality as class warfare, all the GOP candidates condemn it now. So does Hillary Clinton. They point fingers at the other party as the villains.

It isn’t clear, however, that much has actually changed in the voters’ minds during the past 30 years.

According to a Gallup poll in 1985, 60 percent of Americans thought money and wealth should be “more evenly distributed.” That figure has wiggled no more than a few percentage points in three decades. The vast majority of voters believe inequality has grown, but only a slight majority favors policies to redistribute the bounty.

So it’s odd that there isn’t more class warfare talk. What gives? I think two factors are key.

The simple answer is that Americans don’t believe the government is capable of rectifying inequality and don’t trust it with the job.

The deeper answer is that the majority has rarely cared much about economic equality for equality’s sake. Equality of opportunity is deeply valued; equality of outcomes is not. The opportunity to make it big is a potent value that curbs resentment.

What voters care about most is their own economic situation. It’s fine if the 1% get richer so long as the 99% benefit, too.

The candidates of the far right and left are fairly honest about economic fairness. The hard-core libertarians such as Rand Paul and Ted Cruz essentially believe the distribution of wealth and income is not the job of government but free markets.

Bernie Sanders acknowledges that closing the economic gap substantially means soaking the rich; realistically, it can't be done just by marginal increases for the 99%.

The mainstream candidates pretend economic equality can be had without trade-offs. Republicans all acknowledge the severity of the money gap now. Jeb Bush’s view is typical. “We believe the income gap is real, but that only conservative principles can solve it by removing the barriers to upward mobility,” he said. In other words, don’t soak the rich; deregulate and cut taxes.

The Democratic, Hillary-esque solution is increasing the minimum wage, investing in education and infrastructure and tinkering with some of the more egregious tax dodges exploited by, well, the party’s big donors.

The phony egalitarians, I suspect, know that equality is not what voters care about most. The vocabulary of “the 1% vs. the 99%,” of “economic inequality” is simply the latest variant of the language of money worries.

Politicians promising economic cures are as ancient as the conflict between liberty and equality. Apart from some true believers, American voters trust neither side to deliver them. But over time, on money matters in this country, equality is trumped by liberty and taxation compromises liberty. That isn’t changing.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: berniesanders; bush; hillary; occupy; populism; taxes; tedcruz; trump

1 posted on 07/09/2015 4:43:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Liberty worries me the most. We’re losing it. As for equality, everyone has it according to the Declaration of Independence. The problem is people don’t want actual equality, they want equality of outcome. And that will never happen as long as some people work harder than others.


2 posted on 07/09/2015 4:53:47 PM PDT by EvilCapitalist (1 of 172)
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To: EvilCapitalist

ditto


3 posted on 07/09/2015 4:56:00 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (we shouldn't fear the government. the government should fear us.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sanders stands for old-fashioned Robin Hood egalitarianism

Check out the story. Robin Hood didn't steal from the rich and give it to the poor...he kept it himself!

4 posted on 07/09/2015 5:25:06 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Liberty is on the sidelines these days...I think that is obvious.


5 posted on 07/09/2015 5:26:20 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The choice is clear to me: LIBERTY!


6 posted on 07/09/2015 5:28:24 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You can only have one.


7 posted on 07/09/2015 5:28:30 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Liberty, equality, fraternity!

Sort of catchy, isn't it?

8 posted on 07/09/2015 5:41:09 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Don Corleone

Reminds me of when Benny Hill plays Robin Hood, and by the end of the story becomes the new Sheriff of Nottingham. He ends up taking the money from the merry men. Pretty funny skit.


9 posted on 07/09/2015 5:44:02 PM PDT by EvilCapitalist (1 of 172)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Liberty, which is why I can vote for Trump. He and Cruz are the only ones speaking up for this nation and it’s people.

Trump is a clear threat to the Oligarchy and the whole DC bought and paid for house of cards will collapse if he is POTUS. He will set us free of the very system that is choking us to death.

That is precisely why he is feared by DC and the whole corrupt system.

Has no one been following his other stances? Cleaning house in DC-Whole departments gone. Re-negotiation of horrid trade deals where the only loser is the US citizen. A CIC who recognizes the need for a strong military, just like Reagan did. Military bases allowed to be armed! Imagine that, Ft. Hood. Our flag held high.

Trump has good, commonsense positions on many issues. The media keeps flogging the Illegal issue. Meanwhile he has staked out positions of liberty that all of us have been crying for.

Cruz and Palin have his back. What more could we ask for.


10 posted on 07/09/2015 5:47:43 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight (In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Patrick Henry got it right when he famously said “Give me Liberty or give me Death”.


11 posted on 07/09/2015 6:29:09 PM PDT by EvilCapitalist (1 of 172)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Equality is a phantasm. Liberty is real.


12 posted on 07/09/2015 7:36:55 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For some, equality of opportunity and outcomes is the ultimate political value


Took only four sentences for the writer to reveal he’s a doofus. Equality of opportunity and equality of outcomes are polar opposites, yet he puts the word “and” between them and treats them as the same thing. Equality of opportunity is a big part of the American understanding of liberty. Equality of outcomes, on the other hand, is a rationale for socialism, which is why his pal Bernie Sanders is a big fan of it.


13 posted on 07/09/2015 8:03:50 PM PDT by Yardstick
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