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Islamic scripture is not the problem. And funding Muslim reformers is not the solution
Brookings Institute ^ | 6/17/15 | William McCants

Posted on 07/08/2015 7:01:27 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is correct that darker passages of Islamic Scripture endorse violence and prescribe harsh punishments for moral or theological infractions. And she is right that in many Muslim countries, too many citizens still think it is a good idea to kill people for apostasy, stone them for adultery, and beat women for disobedience just because Scripture says so. But Hirsi Ali is profoundly wrong when she argues that Islamic Scripture causes Muslim terrorism and thus that the U.S. government should fund Muslim dissidents to reform Islam.

Islamic Scripture is a constant. Over 1,000 years old, it is composed of the Koran and hadith, words and deeds attributed to the Prophet Muhammad by his followers. Muslims who want to justify violence can find plenty of passages to cite—collections of hadith run into the hundreds of volumes. Nevertheless, Muslim political behavior has varied greatly throughout history. Some Muslims have cited Scripture to justify violence, and some have cited it to justify peace. If Scripture is a constant but the behavior of its followers is not, then one should look elsewhere to explain why some Muslims engage in terrorism. And if Islamic Scripture doesn’t automatically lead to terrorism, then one should not expect the reform of Islam to end terrorism. Indeed, even the ultratextualist followers of the self-proclaimed Islamic State ignore Scripture that is inconvenient for their brutal brand of insurgency.

Consider the Gospels, Scriptures that advocate far less violence than the Koran or the Hebrew Bible. Jesus taught his followers to turn the other cheek. Yet the crusaders murdered thousands in their rampage across the Middle East, and U.S. President George W. Bush, a devout Christian, invaded Iraq without military provocation. Readers may object to these examples, arguing that other factors were at play—but that is exactly the point: Christian Scripture doesn’t always determine the behavior of its followers, and the same goes for Islamic Scripture.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; religion
The Power of Willful Ignorance by WOCADO
1 posted on 07/08/2015 7:01:27 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Profound stupidity.

By the way, the later writings of Mohammed are considered more authoritative. Unfortunately for humanity Mohammad was suffering syphilitic insanity at the time.


2 posted on 07/08/2015 7:09:39 PM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: SoFloFreeper

Sad that something this stupid would come out of Brookings.


3 posted on 07/08/2015 7:18:58 PM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Balderdash!


4 posted on 07/08/2015 7:27:01 PM PDT by umgud (When under attack, victims want 2 things; God & a gun)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Mental masturbation like this is why we will never come to terms with Islam. We cannot even be honest with ourselves about the true nature of Islam.


5 posted on 07/08/2015 7:29:14 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Too late, your head is already sawed off while trying to run through your Nursery school happy playtime thoughts.


6 posted on 07/08/2015 7:34:40 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: SoFloFreeper

There are 1400+ years of history showing that the violent passages of the Koran and Hadiths are the ones that are followed by Islamics. And the Crusades were a reaction to Islamic wars of conquest, and were nothing compared to them, as this short fact-filled video shows:

https://youtu.be/I_To-cV94Bo

This is from Dr. Bill Warner at PoliticalIslam.com, a worthwhile site.

http://www.politicalislam.com/


7 posted on 07/08/2015 7:39:27 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Excellence
Sad that something this stupid would come out of Brookings.

Brookings has always been a leftist, and Godless, 'Think Tank'.
So, no matter how brilliant their members, I'd expect foolish conclusions to come out of that group.

8 posted on 07/08/2015 7:43:06 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: SoFloFreeper
WRONG !


Muslims are well know for lying about their faith. For a better understanding of the issue, read HISTORY of Mohammed ( spelled variously; Mahomet, Muhammed, Mehmet, etc. ).


9 posted on 07/08/2015 7:47:00 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I saw an analysis that compared Christian initiated battles with Muslim initiated battles during the Crusades and the Muslim attacks are something like a hundred time more frequent.

“Take Five Minutes And Watch The Spread Of Islam Via Jihad Before The Crusades”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIeG_0WfaJw


10 posted on 07/08/2015 7:50:42 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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To: garjog

Here is the video I was thinking about. 548 battles in a dynamic map shows that the Muslims almost took over Europe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo


11 posted on 07/08/2015 8:00:13 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

This shows that the author is profoundly ignorant of Islamic history.

For example, the Persian philosopher Al-Ghazali, in the 12th Century, has been referred to by some historians as the single most influential Muslim after Muhammad. His writings essentially ended Islamic scientific and cultural advance, and they have not recovered since.

He was the first Islamic “fundamentalist”, who taught that Muslims should ignore knowledge except that found inside the Koran and Hadith. Everything else should be rejected, as leading followers astray.

This was the formalization of the Salafist movement, dedicated to the prevention of non-Islamic intellectualism and advance, and hearkens back to a time of false nostalgia.

Then, in the 18th Century, Salafism got a shot in the arm with Wahhabism, which asserted that the barbarism they practiced could not tolerate modernism *anywhere*, either in Islamic or non-Islamic lands.

And this set the stage for numerous, anti-civilization, barbaric revolts, first against the British empire, and today against the western world. They truly believe that Islam is the “ultimate civilization”, despite all evidence to the contrary, and that modern civilization is “the great Satan” that must be destroyed.

But this doubly damns Islam, because not only must they destroy us or in turn be destroyed; but they must force all Muslims to stay primitive out of fear, lest they abandon their cult and seek to join the modern world.


12 posted on 07/08/2015 8:49:55 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

well said ... good post. Thanks


13 posted on 07/09/2015 3:38:50 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: SoFloFreeper
"U.S. President George W. Bush, a devout Christian, invaded Iraq without military provocation. "

Non sequitur! GWB did not cite Christian Scripture as the justification for his action.

Islamists, at the very least, shout "Allahu akbar!", whenever they commit their most atrocious acts. And their Mullahs frequently cite the Koran in support of Islamist militarism.

The Brookings Institute should immediately and publicly apologize for this absurd piece.

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14 posted on 07/09/2015 10:17:40 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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