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Pound Sand, Your Honor! More Americans Want States to Ignore Federal Courts
The New American ^ | 03 July 2015 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 07/03/2015 8:02:37 PM PDT by VitacoreVision

While dissenting from the recent Supreme Court decision rubber-stamping same-sex “marriage,” Justice Antonin Scalia warned his colleagues that with “each decision ... unabashedly based not on law” the Court moves “one step closer to being reminded of [its] impotence.” And a new poll shows that another such step has in fact been taken, with more Americans supporting the idea that states should have the right to ignore federal court rulings. Writes Rasmussen Reports, “A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 33% of Likely U.S. Voters now believe that states should have the right to ignore federal court rulings if their elected officials [dis]agree with them. That’s up nine points from 24% when we first asked this question in February. Just over half (52%) disagree, down from 58% in the earlier survey. Fifteen percent (15%) are undecided.”

This shift is clearly influenced not just by Obergefell v. Hodges (the marriage ruling), but also a late June ObamaCare decision so contrary to the “Affordable Care Act’s” text that Justice Scalia lamented to the Court, “Words no longer have meaning.” Not surprisingly, there was an ideological divide among poll respondents. As Rasmussen also tells us, “Fifty percent (50%) of GOP voters now believe states should have the right to ignore federal court rulings, compared to just 22% of Democrats and 30% of voters not affiliated with either major party. Interestingly, this represents a noticeable rise in support among all three groups. Fifty percent (50%) of conservative voters share this view, but just 27% of moderates and 15% of liberals agree.”

Also not surprisingly, this pattern basically reverses itself when voters are asked if Barack Obama should be able to ignore the courts when he wants to. As Rasmussen wrote in February after surveying voters on that question, “43% of Democrats believe the president should have the right to ignore the courts. Only 35% of voters in President Obama’s party disagree, compared to 81% of Republicans and 67% of voters not affiliated with either major party.”

As to the recent poll, Rasmussen writes that Republicans and conservatives being most likely to support state defiance of federal courts is perhaps “disturbing” because those groups “traditionally have been the most supportive of the Constitution and separation of powers.” But the reality is that these responses — conservatives advocating defiance of liberal courts, liberals advocating defiance for a liberal man, and Rasmussen indicating that the judiciary should have ultimate-arbiter power — reflect emotional reactions more than constitutional analysis.

First note that this gratuitous judicial-review power — where courts’ rulings on law are considered to constrain all three branches of government — is not found in the Constitution. Rather, it was unilaterally declared by the Court itself in the 1803 Marbury v. Madison decision. In other words, Rasmussen’s supposition about the courts’ role does not align with constitutionalism.

But critics would say that this is putting it lightly. Justice Scalia wrote in his Obergefell dissent that the Court has actually become “a threat to American democracy.” And this just reflects what founder Thomas Jefferson warned when he said that if the Court was not reminded of its impotence, if it comes to be viewed as having ultimate-arbiter (judicial review) power, our Constitution will have become “a suicide pact.” As I wrote just last week:

Jefferson explained the problem with judicial review, writing, “For intending to establish three departments, co-ordinate and independent, that they might check and balance one another, it has given, according to this [judicial review] opinion, to one of them alone, the right to prescribe rules for the government of the others, and to that one too, which is unelected by, and independent of the nation.... The constitution, on this hypothesis, is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, which they may twist, and shape into any form they please.”

Jefferson also pointed out, correctly, that “Our judges are as honest as other men and not more so. They have with others the same passions for party, for power, and the privilege of their corps.” …Judicial review is “a very dangerous doctrine indeed,” Jefferson warned in 1820, “and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy.”

Jefferson also wrote that nullification — states’ ignoring of federal dictates — is the “rightful remedy” for all central-government usurpation of states’ powers. Of course, this includes plainly unconstitutional rulings by oligarchic federal courts.

Thus, the 50 percent of GOP voters polled this week are right — although perhaps without realizing that their position is constitutionally sound. States have recourse to the “rightful remedy” of nullification because the Constitution reserves most powers to the states, and the states are not bound to follow unconstitutional federal edicts. In fact, in order to adhere to the Constitution, state are duty bound not to enforce such edicts, but to declare them null and void at the state border.

Of course, this balance of power ensures a tug of war and some gridlock in government, but that’s how the state is kept small and freedoms big. If we want issues settled cleanly and quickly with the stroke of a pen, we can appoint a dictator.

Or an oligarchy — sort of like the Supreme Court has become.

If the Court is not frequently reminded of its impotence, the people will ever be reminded of theirs.

 

Related article:

Supreme Court Rubber Stamps Same-sex “Marriage” — Time for Nullification


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; abortion; banglist; deathpanels; govtabuse; homosexualagenda; judiciary; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; nullification; obamacare; obamanation; scotus; secondamendment; statesrights; voterid; zerocare

1 posted on 07/03/2015 8:02:37 PM PDT by VitacoreVision
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To: VitacoreVision

The illegal aliens can do it. AMERICANS should be allowed to do it to. After all, IT’S OUR COUNTRY!


2 posted on 07/03/2015 8:06:27 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Sorry Al. Sorry Jesse. Rainbow is the new black.)
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To: VitacoreVision

I wrote my governor in Nebraska to fight. I pray he will.


3 posted on 07/03/2015 8:26:24 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: VitacoreVision

True Americans know that an extended middle finger is due most of the SC Justices who have gone against the will of The People for corrupt politicians and evil forces for big paydays.


4 posted on 07/03/2015 8:27:44 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: VitacoreVision

If you broke it you have bought it. States should stop issuing marriage licenses. The Fed now defines marriage they should issue the licenses.


5 posted on 07/03/2015 8:32:21 PM PDT by Captain Compassion
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To: VitacoreVision

Get it started now. The momentum and the moment is now. The states have to stand up now. They are the 4th branch of the federal government. The federal government is a creation of the states. The federal government has long ago usurped its role over its creators. C’mon states. Stand up now for your citizens. You have the moment - seize it.


6 posted on 07/03/2015 8:52:14 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: VitacoreVision

I have always said that liars/lawyers would be the downfall of this country.The sc proves me right.


7 posted on 07/03/2015 9:56:42 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: VitacoreVision

San Francisco does it for immigration law.

The state of California followed the lead of SF on immigration.

San Francisco does it for drug law.

Obama has a pen and a phone, and lo and.behold many states and many individuals have pens and phones.


8 posted on 07/03/2015 9:58:55 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: VitacoreVision

“California sets a high bar for those who wish to obtain a concealed weapon permit. While felons are excluded from obtaining a concealed carry permit in any state, California’s rules disqualify individuals convicted of a violent misdemeanor, those who are subject to a temporary restraining order, and minors, among others, from obtaining a concealed carry permit. Applicants must also undergo at least four hours of safety training. I oppose any legislation that would interfere with California’s ability to enforce these standards.”

Dianne Feinstein - On Gun Control just a day ago, unintentional argument for states rights...


9 posted on 07/03/2015 10:55:46 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: VitacoreVision; Linda Frances

governors should get together and sue the federal govt for breaching the Constitution under which the states joined the country in the first place.

if the SCOTUS and executive branches can now write law, or just ignore it when they don’t like it, then the federal system is nothing like the one agreed to by the states.

therefore, the governors should agree to sue under breech of contract and quit the contract until the issues are rectified (otherwise known as seceding)


10 posted on 07/03/2015 11:22:29 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Vendome

The “among others” is anyone that wants one but cannot prove Just Cause, such as having a Job what might put them in Peril. Diamond Merchant comes to mind.

Even in the so called Republican Stronghold of Orange County, the Liberal Woman Sheriff we have spends her days denying Law Abiding Citizens their RIGHT to carry a weapon.


11 posted on 07/03/2015 11:29:33 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (They Live, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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A convention of the states is now the only solution. Worried? Don’t be.

1. A strong majority of the states are red.
2. State legislatures are more conservative even when blue.
3. 3/4ths states must ratify.
4. Congress, SCOTUS, or the entire executive branch has no say in what gets ratified and made into the Constitution.


12 posted on 07/04/2015 1:57:36 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: USCG SimTech

I think Cruz has the best solution which embraces the idea of ELECTING the SCOTUS. A good periodic house cleaning is in order.


13 posted on 07/04/2015 4:40:38 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: VitacoreVision

Ignore?
Hell,
I’d like to see a whole passel of federal judges hung from local town squares and left hanging for all to see.


14 posted on 07/04/2015 4:49:04 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ( Obammy is a lie, a mooselimb and pond scum.)
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To: DaveA37

Yeah, but I bet the libs would rig/steal those elections too. We might end up worse off than we are now. That’s the difference between libs and conservatives. If a lib has an opportunity, he seizes it. If he doesn’t, he creates one. If he can’t create one, he whines till the “opposition” hands him one.


15 posted on 07/04/2015 3:37:11 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Joe Boucher

How about nailed to the ground with 4’ of rebar?


16 posted on 07/04/2015 3:37:53 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

that would work.
anything to make a serious statement.


17 posted on 07/05/2015 4:21:44 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ( Obammy is a lie, a mooselimb and pond scum.)
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To: VitacoreVision

bkmk


18 posted on 07/05/2015 8:42:38 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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