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Gay marriage ruling: Some officials stop holding weddings
BBC News ^ | July 1, 2015

Posted on 07/01/2015 8:34:37 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

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To: P-Marlowe

“The States are currently issuing licenses with no legal authority to do so. The laws set forth the one man one woman rule and according to the SCOTUS those laws are unconstitutional.”

I’ve been saying that for years... (saw this coming)

Sadly, my marriage of going on 50 years also is now invalid since the definition of the word has changed. Of course, we are still married as far as God is concerned.

Maybe it will save us money on taxes...


21 posted on 07/01/2015 9:20:45 PM PDT by babygene (.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Then drop “marriage” and recognize only procreative relationships: parent to child, and parent to child’s other parent.


22 posted on 07/01/2015 9:22:15 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The world map will be quite different come 20 January 2017.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

I suspect that many of gays getting married in states that allowed it prior to Friday’s ruling, were the same activists traveling to different states, doing it repeatedly. To make their numbers appear much larger. They were ripping off this tactic from the Freedom Riders of the 60’s.


23 posted on 07/01/2015 9:26:31 PM PDT by mumblypeg (I've seen the future; brother it is murder. -L. Cohen)
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To: P-Marlowe

Yes, I agree with that - but I think they should formally change the statutes them to allow actual marriage to be distinct and separate from the government issued license - otherwise some jurisdictions are creatively just “reinterpreting” the marriage statutes - but that can’t be done of the statute no longer exists.


24 posted on 07/01/2015 9:38:06 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Arthur McGowan

If marriage is a ‘natural reality’ why do couples need a state issued ‘license’ granting them the PRIVILEGE to exercise that ‘natural reality’?? As for protecting interested parties within a relationship, I would offer the availability of social contract law as the solution.


25 posted on 07/01/2015 10:27:50 PM PDT by yadent
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To: yadent

Define your terms. Why is being a “natural reality” somehow inconsistent with the existence of marriage licenses?


26 posted on 07/01/2015 10:46:28 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: ilgipper

The idiot gays could have already done this...

just give each other unlimited power of attorney.

That’s all it takes...


27 posted on 07/01/2015 10:49:47 PM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: yadent

Well, for one thing,to certify they are free to marry.


28 posted on 07/01/2015 10:49:49 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: ctdonath2

I didn’t mean that they LITERALLY care about absolutely nothing other than the WORD “marriage.” They will hunt down and destroy all attempts to assert that the power of male and female to procreate has ANY meaning, significance, or consequences.

No merely verbal subterfuge will protect Christians from these fascists.


29 posted on 07/01/2015 10:50:32 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: ilgipper
I'm also for disallowing Christmas or Easter etc holidays....

if you believe in Christ, you'll take the time off....if you don't, then you shouldn't just get an extended winter vacation....

there are consequences to the peoples stupidity...

30 posted on 07/01/2015 11:04:29 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Arthur McGowan

A ‘natural reality’ would be applicable to the concepts such as ‘life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness’ amongest others, all considered natural rights. Rights by it’s very definition require no license for their exercise. A ‘license’ can’t grant a ‘natural right/reality’, it can only grant the privilege to exercise said state approved activity and/or attempt to limit a natural right. The only function government has in regard to a natural reality/right is to ensure protection for it’s free exercise.


31 posted on 07/01/2015 11:13:09 PM PDT by yadent
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To: RobbyS

Unfortunately when you are bound by certification of the prevailing governing authority, you run the risk of the certifying rules and concepts changing as public attitudes and opinions change resulting in a whole different governing authority.


32 posted on 07/01/2015 11:23:14 PM PDT by yadent
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To: MinorityRepublican

That’s the way to do it. RIGHTS CAN NOT BE GIVEN BY SOMEONE. If someone else has to provide you a right, then it’s not a right, it’s theft. A “right” to medical care means someone has to be compelled to give you that care. Same with everything else liberals call rights. Obama will just federalize wedding licenses as he will doctor licenses.


33 posted on 07/01/2015 11:35:39 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: yadent
Rights by it’s very definition require no license for their exercise.

That's your primordial gratuitous assumption.

34 posted on 07/02/2015 2:54:05 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: P-Marlowe; MinorityRepublican

As I understand the SCOTUS ruling, all marriage laws in the USA are invalidated, so they must be rewritten. To be rewritten, they must be relegislated.

The former laws were carefully balanced over time, and now all that must be reconsidered.

I would recommend having no marriage law whatsoever. Let individuals enter into contracts on their own. Throw the whole issue over to contract law.

Ceremonies are between individuals and their religious beliefs.


35 posted on 07/02/2015 6:22:51 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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To: xzins

I am fine with leaving most domestic relations matters to contract law, with the exception of child custody and support, which in my view must be handled by the courts for the protection of the children.


36 posted on 07/02/2015 6:46:51 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: NCLaw441; P-Marlowe
The disposition of children could be handled in contract the same as in a will.

Personally, I'd remove the children as far from the clutches of these evil people as possible. Otherwise, they'll soon be fostered/adopted out to homosexualists where the odds of molestation increases 9-fold.

37 posted on 07/02/2015 6:54:06 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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To: Arthur McGowan

If you are not or have never been employed by the
‘state’ apparatus, you should be. From your replies you demonstrate a much sought after uniterian mindset that would be ideal for today’s expanding ‘centralized governments’. I ‘know’ folks like ‘you’. I have worked with folks like ‘you’for over 25 years. But alas I’m now retired and have little contact with like-minded individuals such as yourself. I do enjoy being reminded of what I left behind. Thanks


38 posted on 07/02/2015 10:05:25 AM PDT by yadent
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