Posted on 06/26/2015 9:31:08 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
Well, yeah, there are excellent reasons secession is even less of a practical option than in 1860.
Then the seceding states were almost entirely united on the issue over which they seceded, although divided on whether secession itself was the way to address the issue. Once the fighting started, dissent in the south almost disappeared.
Today even the reddest states have very large minorities of people who disagree utterly on whatever issues secession might be over. And they are generally concentrated in the cities and especially the capitals.
So how does secession work when 30%, 40% or more of your population is violently opposed? Do you somehow figure out who is opposed and expel them, a type of ideological cleansing? If you do, how does that possibly jibe with the American ideals which you are theoretically fighting for?
Secession as a cure is very much like the equally silly notion of amendments or a constitutional convention as cures. If we can’t win elections, we certainly can’t successfully secede or pass amendments.
Right now it’s race... and race is at least easy to see when you want a mob.
But I never underestimate how clever evil can be.
rainbows for perversion, gay for unhappy militants, religion of peace for a death cult,
Up is now down
If we haven’t had one yet, this sure as he’ll won’t be the catlyist.
Oh no. These scumbags will just make up a ruling & give an exemption. Why not, there no Constitution. Whatever EO the bastard in the WH wants he will get & the scumbag (R)s will go along because these Muzzies will riot & won't take it but these religious people will be as always -passive.
Changing the definition of marriage that has stood 10,000 years for 2% of the population will come back to bite liberals square in the ass. If the Supreme Court didn’t learn with Roe v. Wade they will this time.
Time to push the reset button and start over. We really haven’t had a constitution that has been followed as law since at least FDR. And this just finishes completely.
Constitution convention. Call the states together, let’s get started.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.—Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
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They live in that state (now a new country) and have to obey the laws of that state. Like everyone else. They can peaceful protest or not. they can be incarcerated. They can also be drafted.
Watch the secessions!
They’re lining up!
Add one more Catholic to that list in 2016.
If the Republicans can't be trusted in small things they deserve no big things.
“Today even the reddest states have very large minorities of people who disagree utterly on whatever issues secession might be over. And they are generally concentrated in the cities and especially the capitals.”
Well at some point they may feel the urge to beat feet back to a blue stata. That’s how these generally work.
If we haven’t had one yet, this sure as he’ll won’t be the catlyist.
“Civil War”? Not as long as RINOs like Boehner and McConnell control the Republican Party.
Well in this case the proffered “reasoning” sounds a lot like what carried Roe v. Wade... there is some history to “creating your own mystery.”
What sounds so civilly spiffy when one or two are doing it, turns into chaos when a whole land does it.
In fact it really adds up to a restatement of original sin.
And so there we have it. If an institution has been shown by God to no longer be worthy of worship, this is it. And it could BE that people were so rah-rah on America that they forgot the Source of righteousness that could either keep America upheld or leave it alone to fall under demonic wickedness.
Roberts’ almost certainly sided with the dissenters on the homosexual marriage thing ONLY because he knew the other side had the votes to swing it obozo’s way.
And WHY would he do that after saving obozocare TWICE? Here’s a really good reason:
Speculation is rife that obama and his minions KNOW that the Chief Justice VIOLATED THE ADOPTION LAWS OF IRELAND and have used the threat of public disclosure of that to secure FAVORABLE RULINGS from him and those on the court over whom he has some influence. The first such was their ludicrous ruling that Obamacare penalties were a TAX. And the second occurred today, when the court TOTALLY IGNORED THE LANGUAGE OF THE ACA to rule as it did. That tortured ruling has caused numerous legal commentators — Judge Napolitano among them — to opine that words no longer have meanings.
While his brutal murder of the supreme organic law of America goes unnoticed by the leftist (aka “COMMUNIST”) media, how unseemly would it be to have the CJ of the SCOTUS known as a common scofflaw?
I guess everyone has a price.
Welcome to 1984 and NEWSPEAK!
The link below provides the details.
http://teapartyorg.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=4301673:Topic:1290701&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic
Protestants put Obama in the White House, not Catholics.
“Churches that hold to a strict and conservative interpretation of the Bible’s teaching about gender and marriage may find themselves “Romanized”. “
In particular, black churches and mosques.
The question, Tyger, should never be “can I trust in this or that or the other man.”
In the long term the answer will always be NO.
The question should be something more like, does there look like there is a good enough relationship going between God and the man that it is worth cheering for it to continue and improve.
Catholics voted for Obama at about the same rate as the rest of the population
According to what stats? Interesting things can be done with them.
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