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The Complicated Political History Of The Confederate Flag
NPR ^ | June 22, 2015 | Jessica Taylor

Posted on 06/23/2015 4:41:02 PM PDT by virtuous

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The Confederate Flag represents a symbol of Southern heritage, a history associated with honor and valor, and is a memorial to Civil War dead — not a symbol of the murderous acts of Dylann Roof. The Confederate flag was removed from the capitol dome in SC years ago, and it's only flown nearby at the Confederate Soldiers’ Monument. Now what's really under attack is the Soldiers' Monument. If all the images of a Confederate flag were removed from our society racial violence would decrease. Most of the cases of racial violence are black against while, and there is no flag to complain about. What flag symbol do they blame all the black against white violence on in Ferguson or Baltimore?
1 posted on 06/23/2015 4:41:02 PM PDT by virtuous
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The “Stars and Bars” flag, currently the subject of controversy, was actually the battle flag of Gen. Robert E. Lee’s Army of Northern Virginia.


I’m waiting for someone to explain to me how Lee was practically a Nazi...


2 posted on 06/23/2015 4:43:27 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: virtuous

Scanning through the article I did not see Bill Clinton’s actions to support the Confederate flag.


3 posted on 06/23/2015 4:45:58 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: virtuous

If: NPR
Then: Ain’t buyin’ it.


4 posted on 06/23/2015 4:48:19 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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There’s’’ honor and valor’’ going to war to defend slavery and violently split the nation in two? If the South had prevailed what would America look like today? Would we be having this furor over The Stars And Stripes?


5 posted on 06/23/2015 4:51:12 PM PDT by jmacusa
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Did the KKK fly the American flag?

Just wondering.....


6 posted on 06/23/2015 4:52:05 PM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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Seems it’s the nature of Republicans today to fold a lot less neatly than The Stars and Bars, no matter how it’s done.


7 posted on 06/23/2015 4:54:10 PM PDT by onedoug
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Would we be having this furor over The Stars And Stripes?

Just give them time, you know it’s coming.


8 posted on 06/23/2015 4:54:42 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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The same stars and stripes which flew out west over the Indians you mean? Yea I wonder how the country would look.


9 posted on 06/23/2015 4:55:38 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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Yea weird how the KKK flew that stars and stripes or it flew on slave ships, or flew when the north had slavery or even when the border states did and the north turned a blind eye to it, or even flew out west while DC robbed, killed, raped and removed the natives. Maybe NPR did not get the factual history.


10 posted on 06/23/2015 4:57:22 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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Oh, please with’’The Indians’’. Study some real history. They were not the happy children of the plains and woodlands.


11 posted on 06/23/2015 5:00:43 PM PDT by jmacusa
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This attempt to erase history, culture, and tradition is disturbing. It seems to be part of a mission to fold the US into a global entity.


12 posted on 06/23/2015 5:05:28 PM PDT by grania
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Nope they were not, but they were native who were killed, raped, rob and took off their land or does that oppression OK while we attack a battle flag , a frigging battle flag for crying out loud.

For the record before some person decides he;s against the flag. I do not care about the past , or they should not be removed either flag that is.

I don’t have selective outrage like some left wing nuts. All flags nearly in the world could be considered oppressive by others.
It’s over, and they need to get over it.


13 posted on 06/23/2015 5:07:46 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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It’s not complicated. It’s simply part of the American heritage and our history. Both of which I might add are being banned, rewritten, admonished and subverted.

In the Mideast and elsewhere Communist and terrorist burn the American flag. In the U.S. they call the U.S. flag offensive to foreigners. It’s a sign of white privilege. While the Confederate flag is banned.

We must really be an evil people.


14 posted on 06/23/2015 5:08:27 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: joshua c
Did the KKK fly the American flag? Just wondering....


15 posted on 06/23/2015 5:10:23 PM PDT by GregoTX (Remember the Alamo)
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Their land? Who said so? How did a people who professed no concept of ownership of earth or territory become it's prior ''owners''? How many Indians were sold off as slaves to work on plantations? You don't care about the past? So why are you throwing ''The Indians'' into the argument?
16 posted on 06/23/2015 5:13:19 PM PDT by jmacusa
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Photo down the line appears to be from 1925.

http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/6689/

... The “secret” society had 3 million members during its heyday in the early 1920s; roughly half its members lived in metropolitan areas, and although it enjoyed considerable support in the South, the Klan was strongest in the Midwest and Southwest...


17 posted on 06/23/2015 5:15:03 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jmacusa

Are you trying to say seriously that the native Americans were not killed, raped, marched from their lands like the trial of tears?

Saying Indians because the fact remains the whole argument is about the battle flag and slavery and being oppressive and yet even you cannot deny the Indians were not oppressed after the war between the states.

I care about how there is selective outrage because of the left wing agenda and I ma sure you are not in agreement with it, are you?


18 posted on 06/23/2015 5:23:39 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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Meanwhile, Tennessee democrats are demanding that a bust of Nathan Bedford be removed from the state Capitol because of his leadership position in the KKK.

Where are the calls for the name of the KKK Grand Kleagle Robert C. Byrds to be removed from the scores of buildings, bridges, parks etc in West Virginia?


19 posted on 06/23/2015 5:24:09 PM PDT by digger48
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No. But they were a savage and war-like people in their own right. They waged war on each other and white settlers, especially the first arrivals here and broke treaties they made with whites as did whites with them. They weren’t powerless like black slaves. They were just overwhelmed in the end. BTW, how many all black owned casinos are there in America?


20 posted on 06/23/2015 5:28:25 PM PDT by jmacusa
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