Posted on 06/23/2015 6:45:47 AM PDT by don-o
“... frankly, I think that may have been true at one time, MAYBE, but now it is just a big drama great for TV “reality” shows, a lot of soap opera, people love thinking they can tell something about someone because they’re “in the know” about this “secret sign” stuff. “
I think you have drunk the Biker Bootlicker Koolaid.
Welcome to the discussion. I look forward to your well informed thoughts on the events of 5/17/15 and following.
“This is ALL and ONLY about the right of free association. “
Nine people dead. It was a gang war.
Interesting how some posters keep bringing up the “Hells Angels” name when there is no evidence that even one member was present. I think they are trying to use that name in order to bolster their weak arguments.
“Interesting how some posters keep bringing up the “Hells Angels” name when there is no evidence that even one member was present. “
No HA’s in Texas because when they try to move in the Bandidos whack them.
You're right where Sonny came from and became president, but the first official chapter of the HA's was in San Berdoo. Oakland became notorious because of Barger's leadership and grew larger than San Berdoo and became the central growing operations of the HA's. Don't know where their operations are centralized nowadays. Again, I'm working on memory and not Google.
This is what I see.
“Comment by TexasGator blocked.”
What does this have to do with the Bandidos demanding that video of the Twin Peaks shooting be released?
Yes, I'm asserting the 1% MC clubs are "sub-humans" as are the Crips, Bloods, MS-13, Mexican Mafia. Again, watch the History Channel series Gangland. You'll understand.
One of many keys to try to understand this.
Another is to look at Texas Gang Threat Assessment for both what is NOT in it (any mention of Cossacks) and what IS in it (Bandidos listed as middling Tier 2 (of 3) group as to threat level.
Bandidos did not even rate a mention in the 2013 takedowns that were successful.
(U) Tier 2: Bandidos Outlaw Motorcycle Gang (U) Formed in the 1960s, t he Bandidos Outlaw Motorcycle Gang (Bandidos OMG ) conducts its illegal activities as covertly as possible an d avoids high - profile activities such as drive - by shootings that ma ny street gangs tend to commit. However, m embers are not covert about making their presence known by wearing t he gang colors, insignia , and riding in large groups. They seek to turn publi c sentiment in their favor by organi zing frequent charity runs. Bandidos are likely to focus on recruiting new members with no criminal history
“Bandidos did not even rate a mention in the 2013 takedowns that were successful.”
Operation “Hog Trap” nets Bandidos:
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Bandidos-caught-in-Hog-Trap-4926531.php
It's a small diamond shaped patch with 1% in the middle that outlaw bikers have worn for decades to show they are the 1% amongst all other peaceful motorcycle riders. It's an identifier for their lawlessness and criminal activities. Stay away from them and don't look them in the eye and especially stay away from their bikes and where they park. Even if you win a fight with a 1%er, the loser will call his entire club to find you. Not good.
“They seek to turn publi c sentiment in their favor by organi zing frequent charity runs.”
And posting on blogs?
“Bandidos are likely to focus on recruiting new members with no criminal history”
The old dudes keep getting wiped out. It also explains why many at Waco did not have a criminal history.
Surely you must know how abhorrent that term and the "thinking" behind it is. Surely.
Sorry guy, you couldn't be more wrong. I just got out of the biker culture and the 1% designation is still true. They even have worse patches for those who have killed and who are "enforcers". I keep trying to tell you and others watch the History Channel Gangland series. Some are about MS-13 or 18th Street hispanic or black gangs. They often do episodes on the 1%er criminal bikers. Don't take my word for it. Do some research.
Use your brain. For once.
THREE are neutral/unstated as to whether they are skeptical of police/MSM official narrative
FIVE believe the police/MSM narrative
FOURTEEN think the official police/MSM narrative is fishy at best, outright deception at worst
Over the past weeks that I'be been following this topic, I have counted a total of 73 FReepers who post in defense of the police/MSM narrative, and 160 FReepers who post that they think the MSM/police narrative looks like BS. FReepers whose comments didn't indicate whether or not they believed the narrative, are relatively few and in any case, not on any list I keep. I CRUNCH THE NUMBERS because I like to know what is really going on.
The frequency of posts on this thread alone by a group of individuals nearly ONE THIRD in number, make it look like they are half or more.
Sadly, I take less comfort than I normally would, because most FReepers haven't paid any attention at all, and it's pretty safe to assume that the reason they haven't is because they still think this is only about a bunch of idiot criminal bikers getting what they deserve (the MSM narrative), so why even comment? And on the list of narrative believers are a few too many otherwise familiar stalwart patriots who shock me with what can only be extreme naivety, extreme inability to admit one was originally mistaken, or worse, activated operative to make it look like a minority isn't as tiny as it actually is.
FReepers on the whole CLAIM to distrust the MSM. In PRACTICE, a whole lot of them talk the talk but fail to walk the walk. This Waco charade and successful harmful attack on Americans' right to free association, proves that MANY many FReepers do indeed trust the MSM at their core. And they have zero excuse -- they should know better.
Don-o, thanks so much for keeping this topic going with your excellent posts.
if that's what you wanna believe ...
No expiration date was given me.
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