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Catholic Church Played Crucial Role Monks Abbots and Bishops with 6 Lords a leaping!

Amazing part of History of FREEDOM the CATHOLIC Church doesn't get credit for!

1 posted on 06/19/2015 11:09:07 AM PDT by philly-d-kidder
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Christian Elements

But what does the Magna Carta actually say?
It opens with a statement from King John, “before God,” stating that the charter has been drawn up “to the honor of God and the exaltation of the holy Church and the better ordering of our kingdom.”

It then lists all of the bishops and abbots who were responsible for drawing up the charter, beginning with the primate of England; Stephen, the archbishop of Canterbury; and including a member of the papal household, various bishops and various earls and barons. And then comes the first of the rights established by the charter: “That the English Church shall be free and shall have its rights undiminished and its liberties unimpaired.”


2 posted on 06/19/2015 11:16:48 AM PDT by philly-d-kidder (AB-Sheen"The truth is the truth if nobody believes it,a lie is still a lie, everybody believes it")
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I like to put these events on my desktop screen on a daily basis, most often baseball history from the first half of the 20th century but sometimes others; for this event earlier this week I did and noticed in a lot of the paintings of John signing that document, the church representative was right there in the middle of the drawings.
3 posted on 06/19/2015 11:17:19 AM PDT by Jolla
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Amazing part of History of FREEDOM the CATHOLIC Church doesn't get credit for!

Interesting... this article (King John Tried to Butcher the Authors of Magna Carta), says:
Few people recall that Pope Innocent speedily sought to annul the charter and formally absolved King John of any obligation to obey Magna Charta.

4 posted on 06/19/2015 11:25:09 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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I can see why so many people are turned off from Church these days after the Vatican just released it most recent Papal Bulls...

As a Catholic, I’ve never be so infuriated with the leadership of my Church. This is on par with the homosexual-pedophile priest scandal and cover up.


5 posted on 06/19/2015 11:26:12 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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At this unfortunate time and what is happening at the Vatican, it is hard to find all the good things the Church did throughout the centuries. Admittedly, there were mistakes, but do not forsake the good for the perfect.

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There is one thing. I remember reading posts from someone with whom I almost always agreed. The handle was Miss Marple and I have seen her name in a ping list, but have not seen a post in years. I hope she? is alright.
Most Freepers are the best. Thanks again.


6 posted on 06/19/2015 11:28:16 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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It’s also JUNETEENTH, a little known black celebration.


7 posted on 06/19/2015 1:15:03 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & Ifwater the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNZosqiJISs


9 posted on 06/19/2015 3:29:32 PM PDT by the scotsman
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