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Want to understand the appeal of Islamic state? Think like a young Muslim outsider
The Guardian ^ | 18 Jun 2015 | Sadakat Kadri

Posted on 06/18/2015 10:17:51 PM PDT by Cronos

.. The three sisters missing with their children from their Bradford homes, like the 17-year-old Dewsbury boy who reportedly detonated a suicide bomb in Iraq last week, doubtless thought they were fulfilling an Islamic duty, but devoutness alone explains little.

That points to a more general observation. Although the number of British Muslims who have travelled to northern Syria and Iraq is substantial (700, according to the most recent official estimate), it isn’t disproportionate. They get noticed because their facility with English makes them effective propagandists – terrifyingly so, in the case of the murderous “Jihadi John” – but Muslims from several other countries have actually been more likely to go there. Norwegians have been twice as enthusiastic, and rates are even higher in Belgium, Ireland, Denmark and (at the top) Finland.

The group’s appeal to women – thought to comprise more than one in six of all foreign recruits – reflects similarly contingent factors. Finland hasn’t earned its place in the vanguard because its small Muslim population consists of psychopaths, but because an unusually high number of female Finnish converts have pledged allegiance to Isis..

A Londoner calling himself Paladin of Jihad is even more effusive. Ordinarily inclined to post doggerel, slangy hashtags or jokes about rape, his descriptions of Isis-land are lyrical. On arriving, he recalls, a stranger with a smile in his eyes hugged him in the light of a full moon, making him feel that “at long last, I ‘belonged’ to something, to a project, to a cause”. Reflecting on that cause makes Paladin feel even better. “You don’t have to fear the [non-believers], you don’t have to hide yourself nor your beliefs … [instead, you have] the freedom to finally be yourself and be who you’re supposed to be.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; Syria; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; uk
“You don’t have to fear the [non-believers], you don’t have to hide yourself nor your beliefs … [instead, you have] the freedom to finally be yourself and be who you’re supposed to be {...a Moslem}.”
1 posted on 06/18/2015 10:17:51 PM PDT by Cronos
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Want to understand the appeal of ISIS ? Read the Koran. Followed by the Life of Mohammad. Then, before dropping off for the night, read up on the wars of conquest fought to spread Islam from 632 AD. That should sort it.

3 posted on 06/18/2015 10:22:40 PM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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"you don’t have to hide yourself..." just let the id take over. Every psychopath's dream. The appeal is similar to the pack instinct nature of humans. The beast inside us all.
4 posted on 06/18/2015 10:23:54 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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Outsider! Muslims are a protected class. Honored. Pandered too. They are embraced to the point any who criticizes islam is made into a hater.

Reality, muslims are attracted to the IS because its in the Hadith and if what mohammed did is great then they can do it also.


5 posted on 06/18/2015 10:35:18 PM PDT by RginTN
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Anything from the Guardian should be labeled as a barf alert.


6 posted on 06/19/2015 2:29:08 AM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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Finland hasn’t earned its place in the vanguard because its small Muslim population consists of psychopaths, but because an unusually high number of female Finnish converts have pledged allegiance to Isis..

Actually no difference, psychopaths one and all.


7 posted on 06/19/2015 2:33:06 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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"A Londoner calling himself Paladin of Jihad..."

I wonder if he is aware of the etymology and the legend and is trying to be ironic, or just plain stupid. Per wiki, "The paladins, sometimes known as the Twelve Peers, were the foremost warriors of Charlemagne's court...They first appear in the early chansons de geste such as The Song of Roland, where they represent Christian valor against the Saracen hordes inside Europe."

A "Paladin of Jihad," is kind of like a "Jannisary of the Crusades," or a, "Ronald McDonald of Wendy's".

8 posted on 06/19/2015 2:37:27 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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It’s very simple.

You have the government support you obtaining a live sex doll that you can kill when you grow tired of her. I do mean “doll” like 10 or 12. That and 51% of the population in enslaved and under complete control.


9 posted on 06/19/2015 3:32:28 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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What would make a woman join Islam beats me

I can understand a guy joining Islam -- you get to have slave women as your wives (4), and unlimited concubines, you get to have sex slaves and teens as your "wives", you get to kill and steal with Allah's sanction and when you die you get a heaven with 72 virgins that you can deflower over and over again and drink a lot of wine and not get a hangover.

What's in it for women?

10 posted on 06/19/2015 4:05:39 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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I understand them as well as I want to understand them.

Now I want them destroyed.


11 posted on 06/19/2015 4:07:59 AM PDT by WayneS (Working every day to save myself from those who want to save me from myself...)
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I don’t know, but I’m reminded of a joke I heard years ago.

What Muslim parents tell their children so they’ll behave. “Ahmed, if you’re a good boy and do what Mohammad says you should, when you die, you’ll get 72 Virgins.”

To their daughters “Be a good girl and do what you’re supposed to and when you die...

You can be a sex slave to Terrorists!”


12 posted on 06/19/2015 5:07:09 AM PDT by PVT4evr ((Operation Iraqi Freedom 2007-2008, 2009-2010 3rd Infantry, 2010 2nd Infantry))
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Want to understand the appeal of Islamic state? Think like a young Muslim outsider

Okay. Kill those unbeliever infidel dogs at the Guardian!

13 posted on 06/19/2015 12:07:26 PM PDT by archy
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