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Senate GOP floats 2-year Obamacare fix
politico.com ^ | 6/17/15 | Jennifer Haberkorn and Burgess Everett

Posted on 06/17/2015 5:49:20 PM PDT by cotton1706

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To: knarf

I bet if you look at their stock portfolios......they invest heavily in the insurance cos.


41 posted on 06/17/2015 6:30:49 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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To: pkmaine

Idiots who do not know they are idiots


42 posted on 06/17/2015 6:31:03 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: All

Just a reminder. Be sure to vote. Because as you can see, Your Vote Really Matters.


43 posted on 06/17/2015 6:32:51 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat ( The ballot is a suggestion box for slaves and fools.)
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To: cotton1706

A two year extension gets you to 2017 and a new Republican president. You won’t be able to do a damn thing about real reform as long as Obama is there to veto everything.


44 posted on 06/17/2015 6:45:59 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: cotton1706

The GOPe Rinos just can’t help themselves. They aren’t any different than the progressive dems. Fug ‘em all!!!


45 posted on 06/17/2015 6:46:32 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: cotton1706

Here’s the fix.

KILL IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


46 posted on 06/17/2015 6:55:14 PM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: cotton1706

Another reason I’m not a a republican. They are crony idiots.

I mean that in the best possible way.


47 posted on 06/17/2015 6:58:05 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: cotton1706

Test your fix on Custer’s horse.

If it doesn’t revive Custer’s horse, bury Obamacare with Custer’s horse.


48 posted on 06/17/2015 6:58:55 PM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: cotton1706

Prediction based on past experience: the pubbies will come up with some sort of plan and it will be passed. The public will be ungrateful. The pubbies will gain nothing.

On the other hand, the pubbies could adopt a tough stand and refuse to do anything under the guise of, “We didn’t vote for this and have no desire to help it along.


49 posted on 06/17/2015 7:02:01 PM PDT by upchuck (Downsizing and decentralizing government is something the Republican establishment just wonÂ’t allow)
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To: bert; CatherineofAragon
“if you bothered to pay a modicum of attention you would know that not a single Republican voted for Obamacare. what’s more the Republican house voted to end it 41 times.”

Thanks for your learned reply. You are correct.

In this situation, it isn't the fault of these people that the Supreme Court may cut off their only way to have insurance. This bill keeps them having a way to keep insurance until the next part of the bill comes into effect - totally dumping Obamacare.

Lately, some Freepers are knee jerking and not thinking. They see people would lose their insurance and this bill fixes that and they have a fit - let the people lose their insurance, they don't care. They stop there and don't see the bill also dumps Obamacare.

I have Medicare because it's the only insurance I can get. Perhaps these people want Medicare dumped, too. They don't care if I lose my insurance. I also have a supplemental insurance policy that costs me over $200 a month to pay what Medicare doesn't, but I must have Medicare.

I also have a Long Term Care insurance policy I have paid on since 1990 to be sure I can have nursing care in my older life - I am 81 now and still don't need that but I pay it every month. These policies are no longer available due to Obamacare. Those of us who have them, still have them, but no others can get them.

The people of the nation individually, were not asked if he/she wanted Obamacare, they were forced into it and they will be penalized if they don't have it.

It is disingenuous for Freepers to not care what happens to other Americans as a result of Obamacare.

50 posted on 06/17/2015 7:16:25 PM PDT by Marcella (TED CRUZ Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: cotton1706
I've voted in every major and minor election since I was eligible to vote in 1980, except for 2006 when I was so pissed at Bush and the Republicans talking about amnesty. But I am pretty much done now. I'll just let the idiots vote for whatever idiot they want to destroy this country because DimocRAT or Repubikan, it just doesn't matter! We are on a greased slide to hell, and I just don't care anymore. These 'tards won't EVER repeal 0Boladoesn'tcare and we are all stuck with higher and higher premiums and $10,000 deductibles.

They can ALL go to hell!

51 posted on 06/17/2015 7:36:31 PM PDT by RocketMan1 (Creepy White Ass Cracka)
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To: Marcella; bert

“Lately, some Freepers are knee jerking and not thinking. They see people would lose their insurance and this bill fixes that and they have a fit - let the people lose their insurance, they don’t care. They stop there and don’t see the bill also dumps Obamacare.”

IF the Republicans would stick to what their bill says, it would end Obamacare in 2 years. Getting rid of the mandates would dismantle it. Then removing the subsidies in 2 years would open the way for competitive plans.

By extending subsidies temporarily, the Republicans put Obama in the position of having to veto the subsidies.

Could be a smart strategy.

However, we know the GOP is anything but smart. And that they don’t stick to their word when it comes to anything conservative. They’ll cave, vote to extend subsidies indefinitely, reinstate mandates - who knows? They ran in 2014 to stop executive amnesty, then next thing you know - they vote to fund it.


52 posted on 06/17/2015 8:24:52 PM PDT by Hardens Hollow (Couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow to quit paying the fascist beast.)
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To: upchuck
>> the pubbies will come up with some sort of plan and it will be passed <<

But if so, I think Obama will probably veto it -- because the GOP plan will only be a temporary fix, not the permanent repair that Big O and his Dhimmi buddies want.

Then in his veto message, Obama will probably say the GOP plan doesn't go far enough to protect the American people, that it's really a clever scheme to gut Obamacare. He will call for Congress to come up with a permanent fix.

At that point, the dominant media will rally to support Big O's position and the independents will move away from the Pubs -- meaning that Hilary and the Dhims will probably achieve a landslide victory in 2016.

In other words, even if the Pubs "win" in the King v. Burwell case, they still are likely to lose over the long run -- whether they come up with an intelligent transition to a free-market health system, whether they do nothing, or whether they hatch a plan that's somewhere between perfection and nothing.

53 posted on 06/17/2015 8:34:08 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Marcella

>> Lately, some Freepers are knee jerking and not thinking <<

Lately?


54 posted on 06/17/2015 8:36:14 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Kickass Conservative; hoosierham
If YOU, as a loyal FR Poster think the Republicans had anything to do with the passage of Obamacare, we are in deep doo doo.

If you think they didn't, Kickass, maybe you aren't really a freeper? Voting to do something that you know for a fact will never happen is just simple propaganda. When the House was regained in 2010 Michele Bachmann tried to defund ObaaCare and wound up retiring after Boehner got through with her.

55 posted on 06/18/2015 1:06:21 AM PDT by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: bert

If you cared to notice the Republican-controlled? House FUNDED it.
Funding must originate in the House according to the Constitution. If the Republicans had really dug in and fought as do the Democrats ,it would never have been funded.

Boehner and McConnell are obama enablers.

Compromise, HELL!!


56 posted on 06/18/2015 7:14:16 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: hoosierham

Apparently you really don’t pay attention. You assume the Republicans could do what you say. It was demonstrated at least twice that they lacked the raw political power. Wanting something and being able to achieve it are two separate entities.

BTW, in spite of having a majority in both houses, Republicans still lack the raw political power to prevail. Bitchin’ and moanin’ from the pea nut gallery is counter productive to achieving the necessary power to prevail.


57 posted on 06/18/2015 7:23:14 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: itsahoot

Might be, but the Law was passed without one Republican Vote in the Dead of Night. I was responding to that fact.

The fact that the RINO’s are gutless wonders after the fact is a separate issue.


58 posted on 06/18/2015 10:01:02 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Hillary, because it's time for a POTUS without a SCROTUS...)
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To: bert

I thought a majority WAS raw political power???!!!!

What the Republicans need is leadership that will stand as firmly as do the Democrats.And better communicators to counter Democrat BS.


59 posted on 06/19/2015 7:36:27 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: hoosierham

no, majority is not enough

in the senate 60 votes or a super majority is required for contentious matters.

then there is the president...... he can veto anything he chooses.

Many here dis republicans simply because they assume things can be accomplished when they cannot. they can never seem to understand politics is the art of the possible, not what i want


60 posted on 06/19/2015 8:16:12 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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