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Irish Students Who Died In Balcony Collapse Came To Bay Area Through Work Program
Los Angeles Times ^ | 17 June 2015 | Sarah Parvini and Veronica Rocha

Posted on 06/17/2015 7:03:38 AM PDT by zeestephen

For hundreds of college students in Ireland, flocking to California for the summer has become a rite of passage. They arrive in Berkeley each year not to fill University of California lecture halls, but to work on temporary J-1 visas, the federal Work Travel Program that allows foreign students to live and work in the U.S. for up to four months...About 8,000 Irish students applied for the J-1 visa in 2014...

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aliens; guestworkers; h1b; immigration; ireland; workvisas
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I wonder how many USA students are allowed to work in Ireland during the Summer?

Hmmm. Is it...ZERO?

1 posted on 06/17/2015 7:03:39 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

This isn’t just SF. Visit Mt. Rushmore and the concessions are almost entirely staffed by J1s, this summer mostly from Romania. It’s been that way for years in a lot of the national parks.


2 posted on 06/17/2015 7:10:36 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: zeestephen

And this is why U.S. students can’t find summer jobs. Why do our laws discriminate against America’s children???


3 posted on 06/17/2015 7:12:11 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: txrefugee

This is insanity.


4 posted on 06/17/2015 7:16:58 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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I wonder how many USA students are allowed to work in Ireland during the Summer?

Plenty.

5 posted on 06/17/2015 7:20:56 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: zeestephen

Spend a couple of days at Disney World in Orlando. I admit this is anecdotal, but it seems that nearly all the “cast members” under 30 are young foreigners, particularly at EPCOT. They all seem to be great kids, but why are there so few young Americans in those jobs?


6 posted on 06/17/2015 7:23:20 AM PDT by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: zeestephen

Was gonna post the quote from Blazing Saddles about the Irish... but... no way...


7 posted on 06/17/2015 7:23:49 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: txrefugee

Plenty of summer jobs. American kids just don’t want to work.

My friend owns several take-out restaurants in NYC and hires kids for the most simple jobs- cashiering, standing around with signs and handing out menus. These are busy neighborhoods near schools/universities with plenty of young people.

It takes 1-2 months of hairpulling for him to find an American that will actually show up to work.


8 posted on 06/17/2015 7:30:50 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: zeestephen

Honestly? Six beautiful young people die in a horrible needless tragedy and the first thing you think about is equity in visas? You are one heartless soul.

As a Dad who sent his two daughters to other countries to study four times, I know that you pray for their safety every day. Kids can make foolish mistakes and you just hope it doesn’t end like this.

Try to show compassion for the kids and their families.


9 posted on 06/17/2015 7:33:35 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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You know, this is a very tragic story, and yet every thread I see seems to be just full of castigating these poor dead people.

Die in a tragic accident, get smeared on the internet.

As job-stealers, as Obama-voters (guess that one was off base), as raucous partiers (that one was on the mark as the cops were called on this party but didn’t go because they had to respond to a much more serious call, perhaps lives would have been saved if that went a different way).

Whatever their sins and flaws this is a very sad end for them.


10 posted on 06/17/2015 7:36:30 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Re: “I wonder how many USA students are allowed to work in Ireland during the Summer?”

Your response was: “Plenty.”

That’s not very helpful.

If I eat dinner at one of Dublin’s most popular restaurants, will USA students be part of the wait staff?

If I go to a Irish shopping mall, will USA students be retail clerks in the stores?

If I go to an Irish national park, will it have USA employees?

If your answer to any of those questions is yes, a web link would be appreciated.


11 posted on 06/17/2015 7:37:23 AM PDT by zeestephen
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I don't know how many actually go, but I do know that there are agreements in place between the U.S. and Ireland that permit students to travel and work on short-term visas, pretty freely in both directions. (link).
12 posted on 06/17/2015 7:43:30 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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Better restaurants, hotels & resorts in the Western NC area hire lots of international students for the Summer tourist season. The clientele seems to like the cosmopolitan ambiance which the students bring and enjoy their brief conversations with them. For the most part they are polite and hard working young people.

They are motivated to keep their jobs, not infected with the “nyaa....whatever” attitude sometimes found in contemporary American youth.

As several earlier posters emphasized, these are young people who died while away from home, working a summer job. They have mothers, fathers, siblings, grandparents and friends. They are not pawns in an international labor chess match.


13 posted on 06/17/2015 7:59:13 AM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Useless replies like this one are amazingly common in Free Republic.
Who gives a rat's elbow what your unsupported opinion is?
14 posted on 06/17/2015 8:19:30 AM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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To: zeestephen

all along the beaches on the eastern seaboard you will find these summer hires from Europe, around here many from eastern Europe and Russia. They are probably on the described J-1 program. Some of them have stayed on - by marrying a local.


15 posted on 06/17/2015 8:21:29 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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It takes 1-2 months of hairpulling for him to find an American that will actually show up to work.

Why work when you can enslave yourself for the rest of your life with student loans. I live in a college bedroom town and am amazed by the amount of PBR consumed by starving students in their expensive two bedroom rented apartments.

16 posted on 06/17/2015 8:25:48 AM PDT by Stentor ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Exactly...this is a horrible tragedy for the victims families and now all critical eyes should focus on why the structural failure of the balcony and not some temp. work program.
We are America, we want the worlds best and brightest and if it comes via a work program, so be it.
Prayers for the families.


17 posted on 06/17/2015 8:26:39 AM PDT by two23 (What Would George Washington Do?)
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18 posted on 06/17/2015 8:27:26 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I’d like to think that if I were in a similar situation I’d be aware of the dangers of cramming 13 people onto a tiny decorative balcony. But it is easy to postulate in hindsight.


19 posted on 06/17/2015 8:28:23 AM PDT by GSWarrior (Click HERE to activate this tag line.)
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To: RJS1950

I went to the Cedar Point amusement park in 2003, and the food stands seemed to be at least partially run by Slavic (Eastern European) girls.


20 posted on 06/17/2015 8:30:17 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Cancer-free since 1988! US out of UN! UN out of US!)
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