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1 posted on 06/16/2015 5:07:40 PM PDT by don-o
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Why do they pick Waco when they want to introduce America to new levels of police insanity? What is it about that place that makes “them” say, “okay, we burn another part of the Constitution here”? Is it hexed, or what?


2 posted on 06/16/2015 5:21:11 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: don-o

No arrest without probable cause, no search and seizure without probable cause or a warrant, no unlawful detention, speedy trial, etc. etc.?

In this, the 800th year of Magna Carta, justice in the USA looks like whatever the government wants it to look like...


3 posted on 06/16/2015 5:21:44 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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“‘Shut up. We don’t want to hear what you’re saying,’”

I am not defending any bikers with the following statement. Someone needs to pay and pay dearly for making the above statement to them. Every single individual who answered that way would be terminated and barred from law enforcement for life. And, that would just be the beginning.

4 posted on 06/16/2015 5:27:26 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: don-o

The more I read about Waco II, the more it looks like an other gubmint foul (to be polite) up.
I have not seen any reports of Wounded, just killed. THAT in it self makes this the strangest firefight in the history of gun fights.
Usually something like 3 - 5 wounded to each killed. That should translate to somewhere around 35 gunshot wounds that I have never seen reported


5 posted on 06/16/2015 5:32:24 PM PDT by Tupelo (I fell more like Phillip Nolan every day.)
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To: don-o

When rogue governments overstep their authority and ignore the law, this is inevitable the result. Among some of those arrested may be a murderer or two and may be some of whom are involved with organized criminal activity. But, when the Gestapo also rounds up innocent because they can, our country is out of control.

This couple should stand their ground and take every penny the courts will award them. It will be up to the voters to exact retribution on the local government authorities and the police chief for throwing away taxpayer money so that they can play Nazis.

And for all those law enforcement supporters who defend what happened in Waco, I will just say that I took an oath to defend against this sort of tyranny and will continue to speak out against this sort of behavior. Protection of the innocent trumps the use of government power to deal with criminals.


9 posted on 06/16/2015 5:52:14 PM PDT by centurion316 (ze)
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To: don-o

Lots really doesn’t add up in your article. Sometimes stories don’t add up because they are false.
Got a simple question from the article. Be very interested in your reply.

“After insisting he be given a phone call, Walter said he simply picked Giles’ number at random off a list on the Internet”

If he was not given the opportunity to make a phone call, until finally insisting (insisting usually doesn’t work with Jail Staff) how was he able to get on the internet (before his phone call) to find the lawyer?


13 posted on 06/16/2015 5:57:01 PM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: don-o
As a community volunteer who gives her time at nursing homes and has raised thousands for charity events with her women’s motorcycle club, Ester said she hopes Central Texans realize she and her husband are innocent.

If Ester reads the Waco threads, she will get her feelings hurt. She will learn that a good many consider her to be a subhuman. That she and her husband deserved what they got, and that they are guilty, guilty, guilty.

19 posted on 06/16/2015 6:27:19 PM PDT by sport
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“I learned a long time ago, never judge a book by its cover,” she said. “You never know who the person is just by looking at them. Yes, I was probably dirty because I was on the ground. I was hot and sweaty because I was in the sun all day. ... I didn’t look very pleasing. But you don’t know who I am.”

Walter said he hopes residents wait for the truth to come out before some make judgments.

“Wait until it’s over and see what the facts are before you judge,” he said.

I and many others are on Your side Mr. & Mrs. Walker. Please DO take this all the way to a Jury Trial, yes it will take time, yes the corrupt ones will try to intimidate Y'All. DON'T BACK DOWN!!! Y'All and many others have been wronged in a huge way!!!

These alleged leo's want Justice?

MAKE SURE THEY GET IT!!!They need to pay with careers and BIG MONEY!!!

They need to have their lives scarred forever on this Earth and then when the REAL Judgement Day comes- Well, let's just say I wouldn't want to be in their shoes.

32 posted on 06/16/2015 6:50:25 PM PDT by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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To: don-o

Two points on this:

1. The Waco police are corrupt and have been since at least the early eighties.

2. What kind of idiot goes to a biker gang convention at a quasi-strip joint? I’m sure a lot of them are not really criminals, but the sheer moronic stupidity of it boggles the mind.

If some black idiot was hanging out with Bloods and Crips for the kicks of it, and then got arrested, no one here would have any sympathy.


33 posted on 06/16/2015 6:50:30 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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Don, why no counterlawsuits?

I’d think there’d be scores of lawyers from across the state willing to take on what appears to be an open and shut case of civil rights violations.

There’s big money to be made. So why the crickets?

And no, that leftist kook lawyer from Austin does not count.


41 posted on 06/16/2015 7:11:07 PM PDT by T-Bone Texan (B.L.O.A.T. : Buy Lots Of Ammo Today)
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To: don-o

I believe the 1 million dollar bail for this man was a bit excessive. Sue the F out of them.


48 posted on 06/16/2015 8:48:39 PM PDT by CPT Clay
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I just saw a article by Doug Giles about the Waco incident. He does not believe the police version either. ClashDaily.com with Doug Giles should be the link. If that don’t work, you are on your on. I am not computer literate enough to do it right.


51 posted on 06/16/2015 9:34:57 PM PDT by sport
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To: don-o

What sort of reporting is this? A very long article and nowhere are the charges that these people are being held on listed. The lawyers talks about years of court but why? If there are no charges how do you go to court? If there are charges why not stated?


55 posted on 06/17/2015 4:16:35 AM PDT by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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To: don-o

I am puzzled why a guy who is a soldier describes it as “bullets going off”. Odd turn of phrase.


56 posted on 06/17/2015 4:25:07 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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