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Robert Reich: Americans have had it with free trade
Salon ^ | June 16, 2015 | Robert Reich

Posted on 06/16/2015 2:17:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’ve had it with my kids.


41 posted on 06/16/2015 5:16:26 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Whats the opposite of “free”, mr. Reich?


42 posted on 06/16/2015 5:19:52 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: central_va

Something we are not allowed to acknowledge in our society is that, like everywhere else, we have a sector of our population that will be unable to do more complex jobs simply because they lack the intelligence and work ethic. We pretend, for the sake of political correctness, that everyone is born equal, and therefore everyone can be trained for any task. Any free trade agreement should face this fact head on, and not run with the fallacy that we simply need to throw money at an inefficient government training program.


43 posted on 06/16/2015 5:24:53 AM PDT by binreadin
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To: central_va
I mean how f-ed up is that?

Especially since the premise is that productive and self-supporting line workers can be retrained as nuclear physicists and computer programmers.

I don't take a word they say seriously anymore.

American workers are my brothers and sisters. Bangladeshi, Indonesian, and Chinese workers are not. It's that simple.

If that's "protectionism", fine. Make the most of it.

44 posted on 06/16/2015 5:25:23 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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To: gusty

Lots of sloganeering, talking points, and magic words. Saying “Listen to what Limbagh, Levin, and Sessions say” is being treated like some kind of magical incantation that should end all arguments.

It doesn’t.

I respect them and hear what they say but I still do my own research and thinking. Its why I’ve reached the conclusion that the bulk of our trade problems begin and end within our own borders and have nothing to do with global trade. If we deal with our own domestic issues of over taxation and over regulation, we’ll be 80% of the way there.


45 posted on 06/16/2015 5:26:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (You vote for your TPP supporter and I'll vote for mine.)
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To: Jim Noble
computer programmers.

No, we have an H-1b program to kill that poverty escape route.

You sound like a jingoist fool. and I love it.

46 posted on 06/16/2015 5:27:46 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Jim Noble

United States, Australia, Brunei Darussalam, Chile, Malaysia, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, Vietnam, Canada, Mexico and Japan.


47 posted on 06/16/2015 5:27:59 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Embarrassed by Dems, Obama Turns to Boehner to Revive Trade Bill

Handed an embarrassing defeat by Democrats who smacked down his fast-track trade bill, President Barack Obama has turned to House Speaker John Boehner to resurrect the measure. [Full Story]

http://www.newsmax.com/


48 posted on 06/16/2015 5:28:50 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: cripplecreek

A doctor doesn’t let a patient die waiting for a cure.


49 posted on 06/16/2015 5:29:03 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Personally, I’m against illogical midgets and socialists.


50 posted on 06/16/2015 5:32:47 AM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: central_va

I am a jingoist (I prefer “American nationalist). Not sure about the fool part...


51 posted on 06/16/2015 5:35:15 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thanks for the link, just posted that.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3300728/posts?page=1


52 posted on 06/16/2015 5:46:27 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-tradebalance/c5700.html)
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To: z taxman

Reich has been and will always be dishonest. This was a secret back room deal that smelled nothing of “free trade”. No wonder it was defeated.


53 posted on 06/16/2015 6:10:02 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think the Munchkin may be right on this one.

You can only cry wolf so many times. For three decades now the American people keep being told over and over how THIS free trade agreement will launch our economy into spectacular growth, raising incomes and standards of living for all.

Apparently they’ve had it with Lucy yanking away the football. Thanks to the bozos who keep overselling these agreements, they may also be throwing in the towel on capitalism in general.

If Ross Perot had been sane he would have won that election.


54 posted on 06/16/2015 6:13:29 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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I think the Munchkin may be right on this one.

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He does make a couple of good points. Free trade may be good in theory, but in practice it hasn’t worked as well. Add in a dishonest government that can’t be trusted, and people are going to start throwing up some opposition.

I don’t know of anyone who thinks the standard of living has gone up for the middle class in recent decades, and that’s inexcusable for a country like the United States.


55 posted on 06/16/2015 6:17:31 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Sorry, Bobby.

Americans don't like this current bill because it is another 1,000 page, unread, hidden from the public, backroom monstrosity giving huge powers to the current tyrannical King wannabe while stripping the Legislature of Constitutional powers and it contains God-only-knows-what-else slipped-in surprises just screaming to be revealed from the secret process. In other words, it is a big, fat stinking turkey law just like Washington lately so loves to pass.

The others (Democraps and union bosses) are against it because it doesn't give them enough free sh!t, political control, and personal power and spend enough money to further expand their own kingdoms.

56 posted on 06/16/2015 6:33:59 AM PDT by Gritty (Republics fall when the wise are banished from public councils and the profligate rewarded-J. Story)
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To: Moonman62

Hard to tell as I don’t think we’ve ever tried free trade. Just accepted a bunch of crony capitalist agreements intended to please donors from the Chamber of Commerce.


57 posted on 06/16/2015 6:49:09 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: cripplecreek

China will be added after.
Political elite flim flam to get it passed.


58 posted on 06/16/2015 10:40:07 AM PDT by cp124 (Government is value subtracted.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I don't mind doing your research for you but if you want further details, you'll have to do your own work.

The fast track negotiating authority for trade agreements is the authority of the President of the United States to negotiate international agreements that Congress can approve or disapprove but cannot amend or filibuster. Also called trade promotion authority (TPA) since 2002, fast track negotiating authority is a temporary and controversial power granted to the President by Congress. The authority was in effect from 1975 to 1994, pursuant to the Trade Act of 1974, and from 2002 to 2007 by the Trade Act of 2002. Although it expired for new agreements on July 1, 2007, it continued to apply to agreements already under negotiation until they were eventually passed into law in 2011. In 2012, the Obama administration began seeking renewal of the authority.

59 posted on 06/16/2015 12:11:43 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: muir_redwoods
..negotiate international agreements that Congress can approve or disapprove..

There is no "free hand" for the president.

Paul Ryan: Voting 'yes' on trade won't give Obama carte blanche

60 posted on 06/16/2015 12:17:31 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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