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Holdouts: Blacks oppose gay marriage, 41/51, in new Pew poll
Hotair ^ | 06/08/2015 | AllahPundit

Posted on 06/08/2015 5:58:08 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Dave W

I talk to blacks all the time and have even been invited to inner city Detroit churches. We’ve got common ground on abortion, guns, gay marriage and several other things. Black businessmen don’t want to be overregulated or overtaxed than anyone else.

The biggest hurdle to blacks voting republican in local races is the lack of republicans running in urban areas.


21 posted on 06/08/2015 6:41:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: SeekAndFind

If they did, then they would vote against it, not for it.

When someone votes for the party doing this to us, you can’t take them seriously when they say that they don’t approve of it.


22 posted on 06/08/2015 6:46:11 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d like to see the lefties call THEM bigots.


23 posted on 06/08/2015 6:49:13 PM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: apillar
MY BELIEFS
I follow the conservative line on most economic/defense/foreign relations issues such as the budget, free trade, war on terror, the UN etc. On social issues I have more of a Libertarian streak -

Interesting anecdote, especially with your home page statement of your being a social liberal, what kind of " a very conservative rural church" is it?

24 posted on 06/08/2015 6:50:28 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: cripplecreek
Sorry bub, but that is no evidence of blacks changing their voting habits or beliefs. So you spoke at a black church - big deal. That was their way of engaging you and not you engaging them. Engagement has been an utter failure and a complete waste of money. I think we should leave them alone and mind our own business.

I live and work in the DC area and for decades I have witnessed the appalling denial in blacks.

Going way back to 1992, almost all blacks I knew believed we were in the worst economy in the last 50 years as Clinton claimed thousands of times. Several believed the unemployment was 25% (they heard that on the radio and eagerly believed it). So when I presented them US govt stats that the unemployment was not 25%, they refused to believe it.

Many of them live in Prince Georges county, MD which is a cesspool of crime and incompetence and corruption and horrible schools. One of the folks I work with lives in that county and his two sons were 'educated' in that school system, which is a complete disaster area. However, he was happy with his situation as he told me his sons' teachers are really good and his school was good, too - unlike the others. His older son made good grades and my fellow worker was shocked, just shocked when his son had no ability to do college level work. He spent his entire freshman year in remedial courses and then dropped out of college. His younger son - same story. Do you think this real life example would have an impact? Perhaps the schools really aren't good. Perhaps we need change. Oh no, he still votes for the same people and the same party election after election. He sees nothing wrong...nothing needs to be fixed.

I have seen scores of blacks burned by their own system, burned by their own people, burned by their own 'ideals' and yet, it is more important to stick together with their own kind and blame whitey. You see, it's whitey's fault. I have all kinds of anecdotes. Blacks are very conspiratorial about most everything. Fairfax County has one of the best school systems in the country and when I ask my black coworkers and acquaintances, if they have considered moving from PG county to Fairfax, they answer is almost always, "We've discussed it, but we feel more comfortable where we are." But this is the future of your children. "Yes, we know, but they'll do fine in the schools here." These are blacks who can easily afford to move across the river to Virginia, but for the sake of being with their kind, they have sacrificed their children.

The DC school system is so bad, I could spend hours writing about it, but the bottom line is 50% do not graduate and 50% of those who do graduate are functionally illiterate. When one of the mayors hired an Asian as head of the DC school system, she was run out after several years. She was turning the tables upside down, but you can't have that. The fact that their school system is a shambles did not matter to them. All they wanted was a black superintendent.

Blacks give lip service opposing same sex marriage, but that is all it is. The next election, they are voting for the same ones who have ruined their families and ruined their community. They don't care. If they cared, their behavior would be different.

It is a waste of time to engage blacks. You don't even want me to write as to what they think of Ben Carson.

25 posted on 06/08/2015 7:27:42 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Dave W

Whatever. Not all of us have allowed Obama to pull our puppet strings.


26 posted on 06/08/2015 7:29:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: SeekAndFind

Given the illegitimacy rate of black children it looks like they don’t support any type of marriage


27 posted on 06/08/2015 7:38:01 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: cripplecreek

Correct - only 98% have allowed him to pull the strings.


28 posted on 06/08/2015 7:50:00 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: SeekAndFind

What’s the Muslim opinion of Gay Marriage?


29 posted on 06/08/2015 8:08:19 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama - "I will stand with the Muslims")
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To: Dave W

You’re one of those types.


30 posted on 06/08/2015 9:36:13 PM PDT by patro (Phrogs Forever)
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To: cripplecreek

Hopefully the newly elected conservative Republican chairman of the North Carolina GOP can help change that (and yes, he’s black).


31 posted on 06/08/2015 10:02:24 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: patro
I'm OK with your comment because I know engagement does not work. When blacks stop voting 95+% democrats, please get in touch with me. Otherwise, there is no point.

Nixon got 33% of the black vote in 1960 and Goldwater got almost none in 1964 and it hasn't changed in half a century since. So, please, if you can, educate me on how engaging blacks is helpful and has changed their voting patterns and point of view. I know you can't do that and won't respond just like the other one.

32 posted on 06/08/2015 10:15:24 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: JSDude1

Failure to try is just plain failure.


33 posted on 06/09/2015 4:18:56 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: SeekAndFind

They’re just a bunch of racists /sarc


34 posted on 06/09/2015 7:34:05 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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