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Holdouts: Blacks oppose gay marriage, 41/51, in new Pew poll
Hotair ^ | 06/08/2015 | AllahPundit

Posted on 06/08/2015 5:58:08 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

They’re not the only group still opposed, of course — senior citizens and white evangelicals also say no to SSM — but they’re the only group that’s under intense partisan pressure to conform that’s still resisting. When Obama announced his support for gay marriage in 2012, at least one poll showed a sea change in black opinion in the aftermath, from 41 percent in favor to 59 percent virtually overnight. One 2012 exit poll found 51 percent support for SSM among blacks versus 41 percent opposition. Pew’s polls over the years have found that black support did increase noticeably between 2010 and 2012, possibly driven by O’s friendlier rhetoric towards SSM or possibly by the broader national trend in favor, but over the past few years that support has leveled off. As things stand today, the closest thing to the GOP’s socially conservative base on gay marriage outside the base itself is blacks.

Makes me wonder how the numbers will look after the Supreme Court legalizes the practice. Will blacks come around, with Democratic Party leaders celebrating the decision euphorically, or is this opposition durable?

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Black support has increased 14 points in the past 10 years, but to put that in perspective, support among Democrats aged 70 or older has increased 23 points over the same period. (A majority of Democrats in all four major age demographics now back SSM.) Black Democrats are even more resistant to the social trend than septuagenarians. What’s driving it, unsurprisingly, appears to be religion. Just 33 percent of black Protestants support gay marriage; among white evangelicals, the group that’s most strongly opposed, that number is 27 percent. And the similarities don’t end there:

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The only religious groups polled where 40 percent or more see a conflict between SSM and their beliefs are white evangelicals and black Protestants. When you ask people whether gays are born that way or choose to live that way, only three demographics polled reach 60 percent among those who say “choose” — white evangelicals, blacks, and black Protestants. When you ask the same groups if homosexuality is something that can be changed, only three groups reach 50 percent in saying that it can. Guess which three. And when you ask if they’d be upset to learn that their son or daughter was gay, only two groups reach 60 percent who say they would be. Again: White evangelicals and black Protestants. Fifty-eight percent of blacks generally say they’d be upset, almost identical to the 59 percent of Republicans who say so.

Like I say, it’s an open question how much black numbers will change and how quickly, although there are lots of cultural forces pushing them towards the pro-SSM position. Part of it, as noted, is partisan pressure: Democrats will quietly tolerate widespread anti-SSM sentiment among black voters given how important they are to the coalition, but any black pol with national ambitions will have to side with the left on this. As more big-name black Democrats make the switch, presumably more black voters will too. A Supreme Court ruling in favor of gay marriage could legitimize it in the eyes of some skeptics as well. And if it’s true that America’s younger generations are more secular than older ones, and it’s also true that secularists tend to be more comfortable with gay marriage than religious believers, then presumably blacks will trend pro-SSM as less religious younger black voters replace more religious older ones in the electorate. But who knows? Given the hurricane-force cultural winds that Americans have dealt with over the last 10 years, it could be that most of the movement on this issue that’s going to happen in the medium-term has already happened. Maybe blacks, along with their unlikely partners in the GOP base, will be the last bulwarks against SSM for the next decade or two.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blacks; gaymarriage; globalwarminghoax; homosexualagenda; pewpoll; popefrancis; romancatholicism; samesexmarriage
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1 posted on 06/08/2015 5:58:08 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The Democrats haven’t finishined destroying the African American family yet, there are still holdouts.


2 posted on 06/08/2015 5:59:35 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: SeekAndFind

Fascinating.

And 94% of them will still vote for the party which pushes homosexual marriage down their throat.


3 posted on 06/08/2015 6:01:57 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Claire Wolfe should check her watch. It's time.)
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To: SeekAndFind

the gay lifestyle indoctrination campaign has been one of the most successful I’ve ever seen. I noticed the start in Franky and Johnny, over 20 years ago, which had a gay couple in it. and the media kept pushing the envelope.
our side owns no major media station. don’t know how that changed from the 60s on.


4 posted on 06/08/2015 6:03:58 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: SeekAndFind
Thank the Lord!

Come on, America! Awaken!!

5 posted on 06/08/2015 6:05:18 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Fido969

This tells me nothing.

Consider...

1) Blacks are mostly opposed to gay marriage

Yet;

2) 90% of blacks ( that includes devout Christians ) continue to vote Democrat, the party that’s PUSHING gay marriage on America.

THEREFORE, I conclude that even when they are opposed to gay marriage, they don’t really care if its shoved down the country’s throat because in the scheme of things, it’s not really that important to them.

The money they can get out of big government is paramount.


6 posted on 06/08/2015 6:06:45 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SoFloFreeper

Don’t celebrate. This poll does not tell us what we think it does.

Consider...

1) Blacks are mostly opposed to gay marriage

Yet;

2) 90% of blacks ( that includes devout Christians ) continue to vote Democrat, the party that’s PUSHING gay marriage on America.

THEREFORE, I conclude that even when they are opposed to gay marriage, they don’t really care if its shoved down the country’s throat because in the scheme of things, it’s not really that important to them.

The money they can get out of big government is paramount.


7 posted on 06/08/2015 6:07:23 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

51% of blacks represent about 8% of the population of the US.


8 posted on 06/08/2015 6:09:04 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Conservatives need to do a better job at talking to them about the things we do agree on. Gay Marriage and guns are both good issues for us in the black communities.


9 posted on 06/08/2015 6:12:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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1) Blacks are mostly opposed to gay marriage
Yet;
2) 90% of blacks ( that includes devout Christians ) continue to vote Democrat, the party that’s PUSHING gay marriage on America.

It's not just blacks, I attend a very conservative rural church and we have several members that claim to be conservative on all the social issues (oppose gay marriage/abortion) but the proudly vote democrat every election because grandpappy loved FDR and they promised him on his deathbed they would never vote Republican or some such nonsense.

10 posted on 06/08/2015 6:13:24 PM PDT by apillar
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To: SeekAndFind
Completely irrelevant, in my humble opinion. As long as blacks continue to support and vote for democrats that are pushing this on us, their opposition is completely meaningless. At best, it is symbolic.

Talk about stupid - they have been voting against their interests for decades and are clueless. 12% of the population and causes 50% of the problems.

11 posted on 06/08/2015 6:18:14 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: cripplecreek

Trying to engage blacks is a complete waste of time.


12 posted on 06/08/2015 6:19:46 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: SeekAndFind

They need to rephrase the question to ask...

Do you favor gay rights taking priority over black rights?


13 posted on 06/08/2015 6:22:29 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: SeekAndFind

Whites would be the same or higher if they weren’t bullied into saying the opposite.

Pray America is waking


14 posted on 06/08/2015 6:25:41 PM PDT by bray (Cruz to the WH)
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To: Dave W

That’s OK, we don’t need your help if you’re worthless to begin with.


15 posted on 06/08/2015 6:25:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: SeekAndFind

“[My father] did not take a bullet for same-sex marriage.” -Bernice King, Daughter of Martin Luther King Jr.


16 posted on 06/08/2015 6:26:19 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo ("Educate people without religion and you make them but clever devils."-The Duke of Wellington)
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To: SeekAndFind

And inner city African-Americans also oppose heterosexual marriage by about the numbers.


17 posted on 06/08/2015 6:26:46 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: SeekAndFind
They don't have a clue, what Obama is pushing down their throats.
18 posted on 06/08/2015 6:27:23 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3110165/Clinton-charity-took-multi-million-donation-African-church-called-homosexuals-devils-despite-Hillary-s-support-gay-marriage.html


19 posted on 06/08/2015 6:29:40 PM PDT by SMGFan (Sarah Michelle Gellar is now on twitter @RealSMG)
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To: cripplecreek

Well. OK, then give me evidence of when blacks are engaged they change their point of view or voting habits. You can’t do it. It doesn’t exist.


20 posted on 06/08/2015 6:31:29 PM PDT by Dave W
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