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North Texans ride to Waco rally to protest mass jailing of bikers
Dallas Morning News ^ | June 7, 2015

Posted on 06/08/2015 4:16:30 AM PDT by don-o

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21 posted on 06/08/2015 6:29:13 AM PDT by Salamander (Vested Subhuman)
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To: unread

Justification for Using Deadly Force Can Be Lost

“Even though a person is justified in threatening or using force or deadly force against another in self defense or defense of others or property as described in the statute, if in doing so he also recklessly injures or kills an innocent third person, the justification for deadly force is unavailable.”

“A person acts recklessly when he is aware of but consciously disregards a substantial and unjustifiable risk with respect to the circumstances surrounding his conduct or the results of his conduct. The risk must be of such a nature and degree that its disregard constitutes a gross deviation of the standard of care that an ordinary person would exercise, viewed from the person’s standpoint under all the circumstances existing at the time.”

http://www.self-defender.net/law3.htm

Inquiring minds want to know if the Grand Jury will be fully apprised of this section of the law?


22 posted on 06/08/2015 6:30:27 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: House Atreides; Louis Foxwell

Just adding my support to both of your statements.


23 posted on 06/08/2015 6:30:58 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: don-o

Many “conservatives” have a severe case of cognitive dissonance when it comes to cops. Unions are bad; unless they are cop unions. The government can’t do anything right; except the cops who are the physical manifestation of government.


24 posted on 06/08/2015 6:33:13 AM PDT by ozarker
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To: don-o

Is THAT the only thing you can come up with?

Birds of a feather, ring a bell for ya? How about “lie down with dogs, get up with fleas”?

How many of your poor little 115 (only ID’d by Liberty’s good friends, the AP) were carrying a weapon? How many of your 115, that were armed had a CHL?


25 posted on 06/08/2015 6:47:04 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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How many of your poor little 115 (only ID’d by Liberty’s good friends, the AP) were carrying a weapon? How many of your 115, that were armed had a CHL?

Really? It's the West. Everyone is 'carrying a weapon'.

26 posted on 06/08/2015 7:03:41 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1

Trolls are slow in waking this morning.


27 posted on 06/08/2015 7:05:38 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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That is partially true and often is good sense, but when you are carrying without the required CHL and are at or involved, even peripherally, in a shooting incident, you are very likely to be charged.

Texas does allow concealed carry without CHL, but not on your person and primarily OK in your car or in a hotel room. Probably similar if not more lenient than Montana.

Whether or not all agree on CHL, at least in Texas it is a good tool to filter out those that really should not be armed, for the public’s safety (such as Twin Peaks).


28 posted on 06/08/2015 7:25:36 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: don-o

I got to thinking about that weapons number... 300 ‘weapons’, 170 guys...

Right now I have (on my person) a penknife, a locking folding knife, and a multi-tool... I don’t think that is uncommon...


29 posted on 06/08/2015 7:27:31 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1

You don’t uses a wallet chain, I assume.


30 posted on 06/08/2015 7:29:45 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: X-spurt
That is partially true and often is good sense, but when you are carrying without the required CHL and are at or involved, even peripherally, in a shooting incident, you are very likely to be charged.

You are assuming 'weapons' are firearms. No doubt there were some... but I think that yours is an over-broad assumption. As I said directly above, I am 'carrying' three 'weapons' on me at this very minute.

Texas does allow concealed carry without CHL, but not on your person and primarily OK in your car or in a hotel room. Probably similar if not more lenient than Montana.

Open carry is legal here in MT. CCW (concealed) requires a permit (even for knives longer than 5 1/2"), although not always, as winter coats and etc are allowed for.

Whether or not all agree on CHL, at least in Texas it is a good tool to filter out those that really should not be armed, for the public’s safety (such as Twin Peaks).

Of course, I disagree entirely. What makes a weapon is intent, not possession. But then, I believe in the Constitution, the DOI, and stuff like that.

31 posted on 06/08/2015 7:40:11 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: don-o
You don’t uses a wallet chain, I assume.

LOL!... naw... But a lot of Bikers do...

32 posted on 06/08/2015 7:42:10 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: don-o

Rally fizziled ...

“Several bikers Sunday morning expressed concern for those still in jail.”


33 posted on 06/08/2015 7:44:34 AM PDT by TexasGator
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“Curious how the media handles numbers.”

Yes. First it was 500 bikers at the rally. Then 1000!

Viewing the videos and photos ... maybe 150?

Article says “Several bikers Sunday morning expressed concern for those still in jail.”


34 posted on 06/08/2015 7:46:58 AM PDT by TexasGator
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I see the boot licking troll woke up...


35 posted on 06/08/2015 9:23:06 AM PDT by Boomer (America; love it or leave it. It isn't just a bumper sticker.)
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To: Salamander

Nice!


36 posted on 06/08/2015 11:23:23 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: don-o
I wonder if the Jack Harwell Detention Center was having problems keeping the place full (enough)? After all, they had had an occupancy problems, a 50 million bond issue, and all that to set up a 'commercial' prison.
37 posted on 06/08/2015 11:40:17 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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But I wonder if they included the government SNIPERS’ weapons in the ballistic tests?

As soon as the new barrels have been 'broken in'...Were those arms been sequestered pending ballistics testing and the outcome of the investigation?

38 posted on 06/08/2015 11:59:49 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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Hmmmm, Joe. Ya spooked ‘em.


39 posted on 06/08/2015 12:12:44 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

As soon as the new barrels have been ‘broken in’...Were those arms been sequestered pending ballistics testing and the outcome of the investigation?

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Perhaps the local Waco authorities gave the on-scene sniper rifles to the BATF for “safekeeping”. :^)


40 posted on 06/08/2015 3:05:36 PM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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