Posted on 06/05/2015 6:05:07 PM PDT by for-q-clinton
Sorry, but you're mistaken again.
I'm not protecting anybody. I think EVERY one of the big tech companies has far to go to become properly responsive and responsible about vulnerabilities in their products. I'm a network system administrator, I deal with their products every day, and I have to address the problems their bugs create, whether it's problems the users report, or security vulnerabilities.
The reason the article is largely worthless is that it presents nothing useful, new, or interesting. It's just a rehash of criticisms we've all read numerous times in recent weeks or months. Its only objective is to gather page hits by slamming Apple in a headline.
It's click-bait, period. No new information, insights, perspectives, anything. Just trolling. Click-bait.
If you want to take part in a discussion of the topics mentioned in the article, there are probably a score or two of tech forums where people are still discovering these bugs and talking about them. We here at FreeRepublic have been discussing them since they first occurred, and speaking for myself, I don't feel a screaming need or desire to talk them into the ground any further.
For-q, if he's true to form, will probably dredge up a few more slam pieces of click-bait before even he tires of beating this dead horse, but nobody on FR will care.
Maybe someone could dredge up some Microsoft slam click-bait.... but the problem there is, it doesn't draw the same interest. "Apple" in a headline draws page hits infinitely better than "Microsoft". Oh well.
Ta-ta, if you can't understand where I'm coming from after the above, I'm afraid there's no more I care to offer. Hope you have a great evening.
LOL, oh, I understand where you're coming from. Its not hard. Perhaps you could run a list of ongoing articles about this subject that you've vetted for substantiveness. Then you wouldn't have to post over and over again to inform everyone about his disinterested you are in whether they realize you don't approve of the technical level of any particular article.
LOL!
To what degree did the switch from Objective C to Swift also have with the decline of quality?
Nah, those articles are all in the thread history here from the past weeks and months. Swordmaker pinged the Apple/Mac list on most of them, all the useful ones anyway. No need for me to duplicate that effort. But thanks for the thought.
I somewhat had an inkling that this would happen—the day System 10 moved to AMD64, it was going to happen, sooner rather than later.
If Apple had decided to use System 9 as the base for System 10, would we end up radically different from where we are today, in terms of features, User Experience, &c?
They could have improved the memory manager to a greater extent; since Freescale 68k-based Macs were already obsolete by 2001, there was very little need to maintain compatibility with it, for example.
They could make a break from the past—but it didn’t have to be as dramatic as it turned out to be.
In any case, the UNIX integration, and the subsequent cut-over to AMD64 were big mistakes in terms of security.
Actually, I do. The celebrity pictures were being offered for sale for three weeks on the site where they were being offered before the "iBrute" exploit was released. It got no traction. Analysis of the photos showed that many, in fact most, of the celebrity pictures were never on iCloud and had metadata that showed they came from Windows computers, Android phones, regular digital cameras (and some even digitized from film cameras images), movie clips, and other sources, which would not have been uploaded to iCloud from an Apple device. We now know exactly from what source the celebrity photos originated and it was, for the most part, NOT FROM iCLOUD, but from an underground organization of celebrity picture collectors who used multiple means of collecting the photos and traded them among their group. To be a member of the group, they had to agree to only sell and trade photos within their group. The seller was violating their membership agreement. It was only when the pervert started claiming he got them off of iCloud that he got attention and made news and was actually got traction to sell the images. These are FACTS uncovered in the weeks after the "fappening". . . and are the results of the investigation into release of the photos. That is why Apple was not sued by the celebrities.
All of this was covered on Freerepublic at the time in far more detail with links to the evidence. I am not going to repeat it here.
iBrute was a joke. It accessed a dictionary with the only 500 most common passwords used by people. However, Apple requires users to use at least 8 upper and lower case characters, a number, and a keyboard symbol when signing up for iCloud. When searching for words that match that criteria on that "dictionary of 500 most common passwords" only TWO met those criteria. iBrute would not have worked on iCloud except on those two words. The authors of iBrute got it to work by putting in his password into the dictionary. . . as did those who tested it. Again, this was covered on Freerepublic in detail when it was current.
As for Ars Technica's claim of being able to get into the teenage girls iOS iCloud back up . . . they used a forensic software that says it works "providing that their system logon passwords are known" BZZZZT. That means they had to have physical possession of the users COMPUTER to access their iTunes account. Really? That is not much of a hack. I recall covering that too when it was brought out on Freerepublic. This is all FUD.
No it was not! It is on the sign up page in a quite clear option. It was NOT HIDDEN. WOW! You guys will lie through your teeth, won't you?
WOW! You really don't know what you are talking about, do you? UNIX™ is demonstrably one of the most secure operating systems in the world and putting OS X on top of it was not a mistake. Apple OS X has not had a single viable computer virus invade OS X in 17 years since OS X has been in the wild (OS X server was released in 1998 into the wild). MacOS 9 had 139 known, truly viable computer virus when it was discontinued, plus many variants, and additional Trojan horses programs. OS X has only 57 known trojan horses. That is secure and safe. The latest vulnerability is in the EFI boot loader which comes into play before UNIX even boots. . . so it cannot even truthfully said to be part of UNIX and would effect every OS regardless of security tightness.
You got dayglored figured out.
On the contrary.
The vast majority of complaints and bad press about Windows came from Windows users, not Apple fans. Remember:
So there is no "payback".
Just the same old crap, regardless of who is throwing it at whom.
LOL. You guys don't have a clue. ;-)
You wanna clue about dayglored, you can read this: http://www.freerepublic.com/~dayglored#Computer but I don't think you'll bother. It might dispel the preconceived notions you hold so dear.
Happy trolling, fellas; I'm off for the rest of the day, got work to do. Catch ya later!
And it came from the 5% of ibots who were making up fud about windows. But Apple does need to get into the 21st century in regards to patching.
Well, I'd sure like to see them get faster about acknowledging threats and releasing patches.
But related to that, I notice two things about the way Microsoft is handling their patches in recent months and (they say) into the future:
And Microsoft is adopting that model -- not because they're "copying" Apple, but because that's the model they need to use. The old "Patch Tuesday" model with lots of notice and description was very helpful for enterprise admins (of which I'm one) but it became obsolete when it became obvious how helpful it was for the hackers generating Zero Day exploits.
I predict Microsoft will become even more secretive in the coming years. They have to, if they've really got Win10 on a billion computers and devices. They can't afford to tip their hand like they've been doing.
Meanwhile, I also predict that Apple will get more on the stick about acknowledging and addressing vulnerabilities. They have to.
Oh, so all of those over now six million malware exploits against Windows were merely FUD made up by Apple users? That alone is the biggest load of crap FUD I've ever read any where, for-q.
Apple users are STILL waiting for that serious incursion you guys claim is going to happen "any day now!" It's only been 14 years since OS X was released as a consumer operating system.and you clowns have been claiming "any day now." When is it going to happen?
Good heavens...One would think someone is attacking their child instead of disagreeing on a product.
Some people like one and some another.
All together now: "Any day now!" :-)
Ummmmmm, tomorrow? No, wait, that's Sunday...
Day after tomorrow. Fer shure. My brother-in-law knows all about computers and that's what he said.
LOL.
Using your logic malware doesn’t exist because it has to self replicate and requires no user interaction. I’d say windows vista, 7 8 and 8.1 all merry your excuses that qualify for no issues with noting.
In fact I remember the excuses for malware not counting on Macs was that it only works on unmatched systems, user was required to click on link, and or machine had to be in internet. So worth those excuses out there I’d say windows had been pretty solid for the last 10 years.
Actually patch Tuesday is going away as windows becomes a service and they don’t want to wait to release patches as 0 day exploits are more common. They are getting faster and more efficient. Exactly the opposite of Apple.
Ah, and it would be so nice if folks could stick to simply "agreeing to disagree" about these things.
But if you have any knowledge of the history of computing, you know these quasi-religious verbal battles go back to the 1970's at least.
LOL. Best of luck!
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