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GOP open to extending ObamaCare subsidies(if the Supreme Court cripples the law)
The Hill ^ | 06/04/15 | Peter Sullivan

Posted on 06/04/2015 6:08:23 AM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: Enlightened1

This will expand business penalties to 50 states.


21 posted on 06/04/2015 6:57:52 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Correct. Obamacare is a heavy and rolling freight train. By design. You can’t just stop the thing on a dime. Especially since the Dems and the MSM have the ability to drive public opinion to blame Conservatives for the derailment.

What you can do is extend the subsidies (avoiding sudden new pain) in trade for eliminating the mandates (removing existing pain). If the Dems dont go along THEY get to eat the blame for the derailment. And eliminating the mandates puts the whole mess into a mid-term death spiral.


22 posted on 06/04/2015 7:08:43 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Doesn’t work that way.

You are 100% correct! It took 3 years and millions of $$$ to prepare for the launch. That doesn't go back to square one overnight. Thing is, this was the plan from the get-go. The whole goal was single payer, but they knew it would never happen, so they needed an interim plan - that was obolacare. They knew it would fail spectacularly, and there would be an immediate crisis due to all those now on subsidies or outright medicaid plans who stand to lose said coverage. The FedGov can then jump right in with its solution: single payer. It's coming. Watch.

23 posted on 06/04/2015 7:14:32 AM PDT by dware (Yeah, so? What are you going to do about it?)
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24 posted on 06/04/2015 7:28:09 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: EQAndyBuzz

B.S.

From D Day to VE day was just under a year.

Are you telling me that we could conquer Europe in under a year but we couldn’t let heath care return to a free market system? Get rid of Obamacare completely. Block grant the money that is being taken from each state for Obamacare, back to each state. Let them set up their own systems. Remove the restrictions on insurance companies to operate across state lines. Done.

Would it go perfectly with no problems whatsoever? - No
Would we have a vastly superior system in two or three years? - Yes


25 posted on 06/04/2015 7:28:28 AM PDT by nitzy (I don't vote for Republican'ts)
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And how long was it from the Two Ocean Navy Act (the start of the US’s preWWII buildup) to DDay? And how much stuff happened in between?

You don’t get rid of Obamacare the day after the SCOTUS ruling. Everything you propose as a solution is right-on, but it can’t happen if millions of people who “lose their healthcare”, their friends and families and gullible Americans who fall for the MSM sob stories are blaming Conservatives for doing nothing.

It does happen if you plot out the political process to get to a point where it all CAN happen. That requires a GOP Congress and White House.


26 posted on 06/04/2015 8:25:42 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Jane Long

“So, you saying you trust the likes of Lyin’ Ryan and Ron Johnson to design the “plan moving forward”?”

I don’t know what the plan is. That’s the first problem. But more importantly, until I know what it is they are working on, (and frankly until they have something to put on the web site for everyone to see before they vote on it, I don’t want to know) I think us condemning what they are doing is wrong.


27 posted on 06/04/2015 9:56:56 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liawatha, because we need to beat a real commie, not a criminal posing as one.)
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To: tanknetter
I am just sick to death of hearing how "We can't do the right thing now. We need to wait until after the next election. Then we will really be in the driver seat."

Do you ever wonder why the Democrats get everything they want? It is because they don't say that. They fight as hard as they can to implement their policies ALL THE TIME. If they don't get it, they try again. If they do get it and people don't like it, they say, "We didn't go far enough".

This is exactly why I don't vote for Republican'ts

28 posted on 06/04/2015 10:39:19 AM PDT by nitzy (I don't vote for Republican'ts)
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The reason why the Democrats get what they want, now, is because the Progressive movement has spent the better part of the last 100+ years patiently laying the foundation for the kind of fights they can wage today.

You seem to like WWII analogies. I’m not sure whether you were aware of it, but in early/mid 1942 there were people much like you who were “sick and tired” that the US wasn’t fighting back and were demanding an invasion of Continental Europe and a relief of (then return to) the Philippines by the end of the year.

Both of which would have been unmitigated disasters. And the US leadership knew it. So what they got were Torch and Guadalcanal. And even THOSE were close-run affairs (ever hear of Kasserine Pass?)

Someone once said that good generals talk tactics but great generals talk logistics. We need to get past this need for immediate gratification/satisfaction, understand that we’re running a marathon not a 100 yard dash, and put logistical thinking over tactical.


29 posted on 06/04/2015 10:55:43 AM PDT by tanknetter
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