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To: Catmom
I think this is actually more a case of correlation than causation. People who kill are more likely to abuse/use drugs but it doesn’t mean the drugs make them kill.

I think that unless you can point to a flaw in the research, you're just personally expressing wishful thinking.

19 posted on 06/02/2015 2:24:23 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker
think this is actually more a case of correlation than causation. People who kill are more likely to abuse/use drugs but it doesn’t mean the drugs make them kill.

I think that unless you can point to a flaw in the research, you're just personally expressing wishful thinking.

The research might be perfectly valid. But, as in many research studies, what it ultimately shows is statistical correlation. This does not, in any way, mean that these drugs CAUSE any sort of behavior. They are simply correlated with it. Showing a causal connection would require a very different sort of study, often difficult to impossible to carry out.

21 posted on 06/02/2015 2:30:19 PM PDT by Blennos
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To: Talisker
The linked article couldn't even get the name of the journal correct. It's World Psychiatry, not World Psychology.

Anyway, the subject CBS page links to an article at livescience.com that includes this quote (about three-quarters down): "It's important to point out that the study found an association, not a cause-and-effect relationship, so it does not prove that the use of specific drugs could lead someone to kill."

I wasn't able to find the original study, published yesterday, on my first search.

30 posted on 06/02/2015 2:42:54 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: Talisker

Or not.

From the article in LiveScience:

“It’s important to point out that the study found an association, not a cause-and-effect relationship, so it does not prove that the use of specific drugs could lead someone to kill.”

http://www.livescience.com/51030-benzodiazepines-pain-relievers-homicide-risk.html


38 posted on 06/02/2015 3:09:17 PM PDT by dmz
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To: Talisker; Catmom
"I think that unless you can point to a flaw in the research, you're just personally expressing wishful thinking."

Just read the whole article and form your own opinion.

Taking anti-inflamatory pain killers (Aleve, ibuprofen etc.) increased the chances of committing homicide by 200%.

In other words, the study isn't worth sh!@t.

49 posted on 06/02/2015 3:48:57 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Talisker
People who use band-aids tend to get more small wounds then people who don't.

This is a perfectly valid statement just as the study was perfectly valid but as in my statement they seem to have cause and effect turned around.

51 posted on 06/02/2015 3:54:15 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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