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To: gleeaikin

Some of the dissidents from Chechnya, who are having a lot of Muslims go to Syria to join ISIS, believe that ISIS is itself a Russian creation to begin with.

Defectors like Alexander Litvinenko have tied Russia directly to Al-Qaeda, while others have tied terrorism in general to Moscow.

That ISIS might proclaim itself a country and ask Russia to support it is plausible to me— but, then again, Russia also holds itself up as being anti-Islamist, when it isn’t supporting them. Not sure how that cognitive dissonance will work in their propaganda.


3 posted on 06/01/2015 2:29:54 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; gleeaikin

DAIISH is an amalgamation of many countries’ covert operations drawn together by the umbrella commonly called ‘radical islam’ or islamist, but in reality made up of sadists, rapists and glory seekers.


5 posted on 06/01/2015 3:04:50 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Think of it this way. In my mind if Russia created ISIS..

If Russia created or supported ISIS it wasn’t so they could have their own state.

Russia is strong allies with Assad in Syria and Russia also supports Tehran. Both for economic reasons mostly.

If Russia created ISIS.. it was to create a bad guy everyone could ‘hate’

And the Sunni’s just happened to be the odd man out.


11 posted on 06/01/2015 6:50:57 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Isis was created by the US.


14 posted on 06/01/2015 9:39:27 AM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; 1010RD; metmom; SunkenCiv; caww; BeauBo; All

Russia has to play a subtle game because of the many Muslims in former territory that could attack or be persuaded to be business partners.

An interesting piece of information I had not known before is that Syria had experienced a record drought starting in 2006 and resulting in a doubling of the price of basic food stuffs by 2008, crowding into the cities, and general unrest. Here are many photos and also some useful charts and maps.

https://www.google.com/search?q=syria+drought&num=50&newwindow=1&safe=off&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=4jNtVfSsMcHWsAWs14GQCQ&ved=0CCYQsAQ&biw=1600&bih=775#imgrc=TcbmaiJKwQtJ7M%253A%3BrPIM5luVlblvOM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.ctvnews.ca%252Fpolopoly_fs%252F1.2260740!%252FhttpImage%252Fimage.jpg_gen%252Fderivatives%252Flandscape_620%252Fimage.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.ctvnews.ca%252Fsci-tech%252Fsyria-s-civil-war-linked-partly-to-drought-global-warming-study-1.2260537%3B620%3B264

http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/WCAS-D-13-00059.1

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2015/03/150302-syria-war-climate-change-drought/


19 posted on 06/01/2015 9:48:37 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Wouldn’t surprise me a bit if Russia was behind ISIS. Fits their M.O. Much of the terrorism of the 1970s was backed by Russia, for example the training camps in Cuba, and numerous acts of violence in North and South America.

The name “cold war” is a misnomer. Should have been called “covert” war. Russia/former Soviet Union is always up to something. Meet the new Russia - Acts a lot like the old Russia.


25 posted on 06/05/2015 2:45:54 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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