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BBC brands Churchill 'an enemy of the people' ... a deeply hated drunk [leftist lies]
Daily Mail ^ | 5/31/15 | Hastings

Posted on 05/31/2015 8:31:27 AM PDT by pabianice

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To: pabianice

Did they bother to mention that he returned as Prime Minister for a 4/5 yr stint in the early 50s?


21 posted on 05/31/2015 9:38:07 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy
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To: pabianice

Churchill died when I was a senior in high school.

The American media was already turning Communist even back then but to their credit, just about all the news outlets credited Churchill as being the greatest man of the 20th Century.

Seeing that he was so famous made me want to study about him. I ended up reading his entire “History of WWII”, and that is quite an accomplishment.


22 posted on 05/31/2015 10:04:48 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: pabianice
The most vocal critic of Churchill in the programme was a man presented as ‘activist and writer’, Dave Douglass. He said of Churchill: ‘His role during the rise of fascism across Europe, in Spain and in Italy and in Germany was a loathsome one.

David John Douglass AKA Dave or Danny the Red is a Tyneside and Yorkshire political activist and writer. He is a member of IWW, NUM, Class War and formerly of the Revolutionary Workers' Party (Trotskyist) and the Socialist Union (Internationalist) of which he was a leading member .

Good old BBC, which stands for Britains Broadcasting Communism.

23 posted on 05/31/2015 10:08:32 AM PDT by Lazamataz (America has less than a year left.)
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To: yarddog
I ended up reading his entire “History of WWII”, and that is quite an accomplishment.

Yes it is. Churchill's writing is definitely an acquired taste, but once you get a feel for it, it yields up some good stuff.

I read the 6-volume WW2 series twice and intend to get around to his "History of the English Speaking Peoples" epic. I started it a few years ago but got sidetracked - I'll have to add this to my short list.

24 posted on 05/31/2015 10:11:28 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: loveliberty2

What a great collection of quotes.


25 posted on 05/31/2015 10:14:07 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: pabianice

The liberals are trying to get iPads and other tablets into the schools just so they can wipe out all history they do not like and rewrite. All in an instant.


26 posted on 05/31/2015 10:16:40 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: yarddog

I’m currently reading W. Manchester’s vol 1 of “The Last Lion.” It’s an excellent read.


27 posted on 05/31/2015 11:05:57 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: EternalVigilance

Thank you! Is it any wonder that Churchill’s bust no longer has a place of honor in the American people’s White House?


28 posted on 05/31/2015 11:22:36 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: loveliberty2

Great quotes - did Churchill read Any Rand or did Rand read Churchill? ;-)


29 posted on 05/31/2015 11:37:42 AM PDT by Moltke (The tagline that was here previously has suddenly disappeared)
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To: yarddog

Henry Luce was still alive then, and had a big influence on the MSM at the time. I date the inflection point of the MSM’s rapid decline to when Luce retired.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Luce


30 posted on 05/31/2015 11:45:50 AM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: loveliberty2

He spoke the truth about socialism and islam. So they hate him.


31 posted on 05/31/2015 11:50:58 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Moltke
Thanks!!

For those who like Churchill's understanding of the difference between the ideas of freedom and the ideas of socialism (no matter how they are packaged), enjoy and pass along the following, noting the date of the writing:

From the Liberty Fund Library, is "A Plea for Liberty: An Argument Against Socialism and Socialistic Legislation," edited by Thomas Mackay (1849 - 1912), Chapter 1, excerpted final paragraphs from Edward Stanley Robertson's essay:

"I have suggested that the scheme of Socialism is wholly incomplete unless it includes a power of restraining the increase of population, which power is so unwelcome to Englishmen that the very mention of it seems to require an apology. I have showed that in France, where restraints on multiplication have been adopted into the popular code of morals, there is discontent on the one hand at the slow rate of increase, while on the other, there is still a 'proletariat,' and Socialism is still a power in politics.
I.44
"I have put the question, how Socialism would treat the residuum of the working class and of all classes—the class, not specially vicious, nor even necessarily idle, but below the average in power of will and in steadiness of purpose. I have intimated that such persons, if they belong to the upper or middle classes, are kept straight by the fear of falling out of class, and in the working class by positive fear of want. But since Socialism purposes to eliminate the fear of want, and since under Socialism the hierarchy of classes will either not exist at all or be wholly transformed, there remains for such persons no motive at all except physical coercion. Are we to imprison or flog all the 'ne'er-do-wells'?
I.45
"I began this paper by pointing out that there are inequalities and anomalies in the material world, some of which, like the obliquity of the ecliptic and the consequent inequality of the day's length, cannot be redressed at all. Others, like the caprices of sunshine and rainfall in different climates, can be mitigated, but must on the whole be endured. I am very far from asserting that the inequalities and anomalies of human society are strictly parallel with those of material nature. I fully admit that we are under an obligation to control nature so far as we can. But I think I have shown that the Socialist scheme cannot be relied upon to control nature, because it refuses to obey her. Socialism attempts to vanquish nature by a front attack. Individualism, on the contrary, is the recognition, in social politics, that nature has a beneficent as well as a malignant side. The struggle for life provides for the various wants of the human race, in somewhat the same way as the climatic struggle of the elements provides for vegetable and animal life—imperfectly, that is, and in a manner strongly marked by inequalities and anomalies. By taking advantage of prevalent tendencies, it is possible to mitigate these anomalies and inequalities, but all experience shows that it is impossible to do away with them. All history, moreover, is the record of the triumph of Individualism over something which was virtually Socialism or Collectivism, though not called by that name. In early days, and even at this day under archaic civilisations, the note of social life is the absence of freedom. But under every progressive civilisation, freedom has made decisive strides—broadened down, as the poet says, from precedent to precedent. And it has been rightly and naturally so.
I.46
"Freedom is the most valuable of all human possessions, next after life itself. It is more valuable, in a manner, than even health. No human agency can secure health; but good laws, justly administered, can and do secure freedom. Freedom, indeed, is almost the only thing that law can secure. Law cannot secure equality, nor can it secure prosperity. In the direction of equality, all that law can do is to secure fair play, which is equality of rights but is not equality of conditions. In the direction of prosperity, all that law can do is to keep the road open. That is the Quintessence of Individualism, and it may fairly challenge comparison with that Quintessence of Socialism we have been discussing. Socialism, disguise it how we may, is the negation of Freedom. That it is so, and that it is also a scheme not capable of producing even material comfort in exchange for the abnegations of Freedom, I think the foregoing considerations amply prove."
EDWARD STANLEY ROBERTSON


32 posted on 05/31/2015 12:04:31 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: driftless2

I have “The Last Lion”. It is in paperback but a high quality, large paperback. My memory is going because I am sure I have read it but can’t recall a thing about it.

Interesting that when TR died, one of his Sons telegraphed another that “The Old Lion Has Died”.

A lot of similarities between Churchill and TR. They both had been to war, they both wrote extensively etc.


33 posted on 05/31/2015 12:29:12 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: abb

I used to work with an old guy who had started out as a door to door mailman in Birmingham, Alabama.

I remember his telling me that he dreaded the day that “life” magazine came out because his pack was so heavy that day.


34 posted on 05/31/2015 12:33:01 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: pabianice

Just by questioning Sir Winston’s oratory skills tells me that little commie twit douchebag hasn’t a clue about what he speaks. Probably knows nothing of British history, either.


35 posted on 05/31/2015 1:12:32 PM PDT by W. (Animals are much stupider since Noah's Ark, because of inbreeding.--Oglaf)
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To: loveliberty2

Very nice. The evil of socialism was obviously recognized early on.


36 posted on 06/01/2015 2:46:07 AM PDT by Moltke (The tagline that was here previously has suddenly disappeared)
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