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Politico Quotes Scott Walker Wildly Out Of Context To Invent Abortion Attack
The DC - The Daily Caller ^ | May 27, 2015 | Alex Griswold

Posted on 05/28/2015 12:28:28 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What is the point of the ultrasound? Other than to generate an additional fee for the doctor or the lab?


21 posted on 05/28/2015 3:32:06 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Erik Latranyi

It helps to educate those who want to know. But I get your point.


22 posted on 05/28/2015 3:39:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: DoodleDawg
What is the point of the ultrasound? Other than to generate an additional fee for the doctor or the lab?

Perhaps you agree with Obama that doctors remove tonsils for profit.

23 posted on 05/28/2015 3:49:26 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Perhaps you agree with Obama that doctors remove tonsils for profit.

That's kind of a dumb comparison. But back to the original question, 90% of abortions are done in the first trimester. Two thirds of those are done before 9 weeks. Ultrasound isn't going to show much of anything. Restrict it, ban it, make abortion as hard as legally possible to obtain, I'm fine with that. But requiring someone who is a few weeks pregnant to get an ultrasound isn't going to force them to change their mind and is only a present for the ultrasound industry.

24 posted on 05/28/2015 3:59:57 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It helps to educate those who want to know. But I get your point.

I should have been more clear. That was not directed at you, of course, but for those reading through the thread, who are still undecided between Walker & Cruz.

25 posted on 05/28/2015 4:05:16 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (President Walker - Attorney General Cruz (enforcing immigration laws for real))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He did say ultrasounds are “just a cool thing out there” while defending a law forcing them on women.

And his very next sentence after that statement was, “We just knew if we signed that law, if we provided the information, that more people if they saw that unborn child would, would make a decision to protect and keep the life of that unborn child.”

So I really don’t see the quote in this story as taken out of context.


26 posted on 05/28/2015 4:23:35 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

People Who Don’t Want Women to See Ultrasounds of their Babies – What Are They Thinking?

GeorgeLeventhal

He’s a really nice guy. George Leventhal, Montgomery County Maryland Council President, loves puppies. Presumably he likes babies…born ones, that is.

What motivates a nice guy like George, to want to impede women seeing their babies’ ultrasounds, what are his thought processes? Ultrasounds aren’t exactly cute, but people do get excited about them. We can’t presume to know George’s thinking, but it’s still important to try to understand what people who take his position have in mind.

It may be true, not necessarily in George’s case, but on average, that anti-ultrasound people know that if women see their babies, they’re not going to want to abort them.

You have a great power in your ability to ponder deeply to gain insight into abortion enthusiasts' state of mind. It’s very important, because what progressives say, they intend to put into action. Ivory Tower ravings of past generations of academics are now mandatory United States Government policy. If they say blood will flow in the streets, or in doctors’ offices, you might want to pay special attention to what they have in mind.


27 posted on 05/28/2015 4:37:20 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Scott Kevin Walker

Born November 2, 1967 in Colorado. (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Liewellyn Scott Walker, born in IL
Patricia Ann Fitch, born in IL

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Scott Kevin Walker is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

28 posted on 05/28/2015 4:53:04 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Mossberg 930 SPX)
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Is Walker pro-life? He has been backed by the Koch’s who are pro-abortion.

Walker defunded Planned Parenthood under the noses of the Madison harpies (only city I've seen with pro-Planned Parenthood lawn signs inforce). Walker is pro-life, and the Koch brothers put the wallet and smaller government issues above their support for abortion and counterfeit marriage.
29 posted on 05/28/2015 5:30:53 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: DoodleDawg
But requiring someone who is a few weeks pregnant to get an ultrasound isn't going to force them to change their mind and is only a present for the ultrasound industry.

Your friendly neighborhood crisis pregnancy center offers ultrasounds for free. The fact is that the abortion lobby opposes anything that demonstrates the humanity of the preborn. If it didn't, they wouldn't spend resources opposing it.
30 posted on 05/28/2015 5:34:34 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Dr. Sivana
The liberals leftist policy is: “If you can't find something negative about your advisory, create it”. The Clinton's lived by that ideology and will continue to do so until their dying day.
31 posted on 05/28/2015 6:32:05 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Dr. Sivana
Your friendly neighborhood crisis pregnancy center offers ultrasounds for free. The fact is that the abortion lobby opposes anything that demonstrates the humanity of the preborn. If it didn't, they wouldn't spend resources opposing it.

Virginia passed a law requiring a mandatory trans-vaginal ultrasound a few years ago and it was a public-relations disaster for them and probably cost them in the next election round. The Democrats are already getting ready to label Walker anti-education. Get ready for the anti-women ads as well.

32 posted on 05/28/2015 6:43:49 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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You think anyone is going to be given a pass, treated with kid gloves?

Walker’s walked through fire on all of these issues, repeatedly, in non stop fashion and came out the other side whole, by helping the people in his state.


33 posted on 05/28/2015 7:33:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: DoodleDawg
The Democrats are already getting ready to label Walker anti-education.

They labeled him anti-education when he ran the first time. And education funding and support is a bigger deal in WI than in the country as a whole.

A LOT of things caused the boondoggle in Virginia. Not just that one issue. Numerous states have similar laws with no blowback. RFRA was not even controversial when it passed atthe Fed level and in a score of states until it blew up in Indiana. Sometimes it is just a matter of timing.
34 posted on 05/28/2015 8:39:13 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; onyx; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; ...

Politico smears Scott Walker with false quote.

FReep Mail me if you want on, ior off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


35 posted on 05/28/2015 12:39:00 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Walker anti-education:

Friday, May 8, 2015 - Press Release

Madison – According to data released by the Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction (DPI) yesterday, Wisconsin graduation rates jumped to 88.6 percent in 2014, up 0.6 from 88 percent in 2013, and up 2.9 percent from 85.7 percent in 2010.

- See more at: http://walker.wisconsin.gov/newsroom/press-release/icymi-wisconsin-graduation-rates-again#sthash.lMgBjOe0.dpuf

Reading and math scores for most Wisconsin public school students increased slightly on tests administered last fall,

http://www.thonline.com/news/iowa-illinois-wisconsin/article_302d7c65-8845-5c2e-968e-0910feb8469b.html


36 posted on 05/28/2015 6:40:07 PM PDT by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: Dr. Sivana; All
Feb 2012:

Grossly Misrepresenting Virginia's Proposed Ultrasound Law

"Ultrasound laws are fairly common in the realm of abortion politics: 22 states already have them on the books. But the proposed Virginia law--which would require an ultrasound to be performed 24 hours before an abortion and would give the mother the opportunity to view it--has been presented by pro-abortion activists, and even some in the mainstream media, as an unusually invasive regulation imposed on women. Slate's Dahlia Lithwick, for example, wrote that the ultrasound requirement amounted to state-mandated rape. But as Commentary's Alana Goodman reports, "ultrasounds are already part of the abortion procedures at Virginia Planned Parenthoods."

According to a recording from Planned Parenthood's abortion hotline, a doctor will perform an ultrasound on a woman prior to performing a surgical or a medical (i.e. drug-induced) abortion:

“Patients who have a surgical abortion generally come in for two appointments. At the first visit we do a health assessment, perform all the necessary lab work, and do an ultrasound. This visit generally takes about an hour. At the second visit, the procedure takes place. This visit takes about an hour as well. For out of town patients for whom it would be difficult to make two trips to our office, we’re able to schedule both the initial appointment and the procedure on the same day.

Medical abortions generally require three visits. At the first visit, we do a health assessment, perform all the necessary lab work, and do an ultrasound. This visit takes about an hour. At the second visit, the physician gives the first pill and directions for taking two more pills at home. The third visit is required during which you will have an exam and another ultrasound.”

In other words, a woman seeking an abortion is already required by standard practice to show up for a separate doctor's visit and receive an ultrasound. A woman seeking an abortion would only be affected by this law in one way: the doctor would offer her the chance to view the ultrasound.

It's not just pro-abortion activists who have left out this important context regarding the ultrasound legislation. Bob Lewis of the Associated Press wrote last week that the "ultrasound legislation would constitute an unprecedented government mandate to insert vaginal ultrasonic probes into women as part of a state-ordered effort to dissuade them from terminating pregnancies, legislative opponents noted." But the Associated Press reporter completely failed to exercise due diligence and never noted that Planned Parenthood, the largest abortion practitioner in America, already performs an ultrasound prior to performing an abortion."

Source

37 posted on 05/29/2015 3:54:51 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
You think anyone is going to be given a pass, treated with kid gloves?

Nope. But we're giving them ammunition.

Walker’s walked through fire on all of these issues, repeatedly, in non stop fashion and came out the other side whole, by helping the people in his state.

Which the Democrats will paint as being anti-education and anti-women.

38 posted on 05/29/2015 5:30:04 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Dr. Sivana
They labeled him anti-education when he ran the first time. And education funding and support is a bigger deal in WI than in the country as a whole.

And they'll label him anti-education in 2016 as well. The difference being he's running nationwide in a presidential election cycle.

A LOT of things caused the boondoggle in Virginia. Not just that one issue.

Yes there is no doubt that the Republicans constantly come up with new and creative ways of shooting themselves in the foot.

39 posted on 05/29/2015 5:34:04 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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