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1 posted on 05/26/2015 9:35:12 PM PDT by ckilmer
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Disadvantages? How about the real choice most EV drivers will always have to evaluate - in slow or stalled traffic in the winter, you can choose locomotion or warmth. Likewise in the south in summer, you can have your movement or your AC. Something’s got to give.


2 posted on 05/26/2015 9:49:33 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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Exhibit 38 only shows 2 of 3 critical factors.
Not only do battery cars need to go 700 kilometers and weight 40 kilograms, they need to recharge in under 5 minutes


3 posted on 05/26/2015 9:53:28 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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EVs should become affordable by the late 2020s

Also it's curious that in the Exhibit 36 EVs, probably by magic, do not require "auto body", "suspension and braking", and "others" (like headlights, radio, and windshield wipers, I guess.) None of that stuff is needed in an EV. It consists only of four electric motors, a steering wheel, and an electric inverter to run those motors. I'm not sure if one can build even a lawnmower out of that set, let alone a vehicle for humans.

4 posted on 05/26/2015 9:59:45 PM PDT by Greysard
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I take it that Goldman-Sachs will be the first to buy up all the short positions when this factory is completed and is found to be way over the capacity necessary for the demand.


5 posted on 05/26/2015 10:04:42 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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The Tesla Model S broke before it could be out through its paces. If a 4127,000 car breaks before the test begins, doesn't this affect the test drivers? You take your Tesla Model S EV for a long road test and it dies out of range of cell phone towers. that's not very inspiring . . . being marooned in the middle of nowhere.
6 posted on 05/26/2015 10:57:10 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 ( Barbara Daly Danko)
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I’ll take a high performance diesel, thank you very much.


8 posted on 05/27/2015 12:32:55 AM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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If Musk weren’t a hero to the lefties this factory would NEVER be built in the USA.


9 posted on 05/27/2015 1:00:13 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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Do the taxpayers own that factory?


11 posted on 05/27/2015 1:45:14 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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A friend of a friend is in town from California with his Tesla, and there’s going to be a “ribbon cutting” ceremony for the new charging stations at our local hotel. I’m going to go check it out, and peek at the car.

I”m hearing amazing stories about the car, like how it reads speed limit signs and auto-corrects the cruise while displaying the speed limit sign on the dash, optical sensors notice when you approach the center line, and rumble the steering wheel. adjustable height suspension, back camera in the center console, etc. Sounds like an amazing vehicle that will only go 255 miles per charge.... for $120,000. There’s an $80,000 version, and they’re working on a $40,000 version.

I’d like all that fancy gear in a regular car as well. I wonder how much one’s electric bill would rise if they had to charge up every day.


13 posted on 05/27/2015 3:03:44 AM PDT by Big Giant Head
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Green Cars For The Masses!


15 posted on 05/27/2015 3:09:27 AM PDT by 9thLife (The dream is free. The hustle is sold separately.)
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It looks like a white elephant to me.


16 posted on 05/27/2015 3:16:56 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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Tesla will be left in the dust soon.

Next year, a major manufacturer will be announcing a plug-in electric vehicle with unlimited range, refueling as quickly as current vehicles and cost at or below current gasoline vehicles.

It will use similar technology to locomotives, having an IC engine to power a generator that drives electric motors. It will have a small battery pack (less weight) for buffering that can be charged via plug-in (for tax credit purposes, but not really necessary in this configuration). As long as the IC engine has fuel, you are driving on electric power.

It can be reversed and act as a backup generator for your house as well.

Watch the North American International Auto Show in Detroit in January for the unveiling. But it will leak before then.

This is why Apple & Tesla both toured the assembly plant that will offer this.

Oh, the technology is so easy to use that it can be spread across the entire lineup of FWD vehicles easily and cheaply.


21 posted on 05/27/2015 3:59:43 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (President Walker - Attorney General Cruz (enforcing immigration laws for real))
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How much did that cost me?


22 posted on 05/27/2015 4:06:49 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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The chart on part count doesn’t make any sense at all. Why would the EV have the same number of engine parts, yet have NO body, suspension, braking, electrical components, and “other” parts? Will the EV be so uncomfortable to ride in that no one will bother to listen to the radio? I wonder what else in the article is wrong?


24 posted on 05/27/2015 4:28:56 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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"The Japanese government expects that in the next five years......the [battery] price per watt-hour will be about 50 cents.

That's about $2,000 for 40 KWh. That's a huge reduction from today's price of about $10,000.

Why did I pick 40 KWh? That's about the same energy as in a gallon of gasoline. Would you really want to spend $2,000 for a container that holds that much energy, that costs five bucks to fill up from your electrical company, when you can spend 10 bucks for a one gallon container, and fill it for less than 3 bucks?

25 posted on 05/27/2015 4:39:15 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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Been hearing the “in the next 10 years” refrain for decades.

One good thing about all these advances is golf carts now go many times as far as they used to on a charge., no...wait, they do not go any furgher than they did 50 years ago. Some progress on the EV front.


29 posted on 05/27/2015 4:48:40 AM PDT by wrench
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TESLA seems to be in the same position as ford before gas stations and roads.....NO EV infrastructure.... Goldman treats its clients as MUPPETS THERE TO BE ABUSED.......
factor in the REAL COSTS INCLUDING INFRASTRUTURE and you THE TAXPAYER WILL SEE tesla needs YOU TO PAY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE...... sucker
hence the LIBTARD TREND is to tax by the mile in addition to the gas tax (of course ev’s dont use gas)
and dont think about the pollution involved in making and disposing of batteries and battery byproducts... nah just forget about that.... reality blows...as do the LIBTARDS pushing EV’s / climate change and HOPE AnD CHANGE


38 posted on 05/27/2015 9:29:27 AM PDT by zzwhale
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