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To: ansel12

The Catholic Church has been dying in Ireland for 50 years.
Brow-beaten down by the homosexual scandal that affected their seminaries for years. The fruits of Vatican II. Leftist money, and I mean big time leftist money, combined with cowardly Catholic leaders, put a nail in the coffin for good. But without foreign influence the vote to destroy marriage would have never happened. The exact same thing happened in Washington State when Bill Gates donated millions to smother the airways for months before the vote on same-sex “marriage”. His leftist buddies all over the country donated in-kind.


13 posted on 05/24/2015 2:10:43 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("All the evils in the world are due to lukewarm Catholics" ~ Pope Pius V)
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To: NKP_Vet

Ireland is still a nation of Catholics.

Someday you may realize that the Catholic church does more politics than you realize, they just do it with a quiet expertise, as you keep thinking that they are making little mistakes and oversights, in reality, they do know what they are doing.

This is from your article.

“”Ruse pointed out the Catholic Church in Ireland did not provide a moral compass for the debate.
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The Church did not take an overt stand with regard to the Irish marriage-definition referendum.

A spokeswoman for Archbishop Diarmuid Martin of Dublin told the Irish Times on Wednesday it was not the archbishop’s policy “to tell others how to vote except to stress that, given the importance of marriage and the family, decisions should not be taken lightly and that people should be informed of what is involved.”

At least one Catholic priest, Father Tim Hazelwood, a parish priest in County Cork, even announced publicly his intention to vote Yes.

Although the May 16 Guardian article was misleading regarding foreign support for those opposed to constitutional change, it was on target when it observed, “A Yes vote would also mark yet another defeat for the Catholic Church and the political power it used to wield in Ireland.”””


15 posted on 05/24/2015 2:17:47 PM PDT by ansel12
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