Posted on 05/24/2015 1:38:51 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
Ireland is still about 85% Catholic, down from about 90% a few years ago.
The people of Ireland are baptized Catholics, their leadership in Rome could have killed this if they wanted to.
Laws are what the Left uses to hogtie normal people.
“We were up against buzzwords and money.”
The left and right hands of Satan.
They don't have to be alive to vote.
And if they acted like it, all would be well. But they are purposefully defying the clear teachings of the Church and voted in favor of something the Church has always held to be an abomination.
"their leadership in Rome could have killed this if they wanted to."
The Irish have abandoned their faith. They ignore and defy the teachings of the Church, and the vast majority of them no longer attend mass. Why would they care what Rome says?
Yes. Self-desecrating Catholic votes. Just like how U.S. catholics (and Jews) vote. Goofy world. All gonna be paid for. Steeply.
”Ruse pointed out the Catholic Church in Ireland did not provide a moral compass for the debate.
(snip)
The Church did not take an overt stand with regard to the Irish marriage-definition referendum”
And I called them for what they are. COWARDS.
Judging by the Catholic vote in America, Ireland did vote Catholic.
Which makes sense, since they are unquestionably a Catholic nation.
The Catholic church took a position on this issue, and their position was to not fight the pro-gay marriage people..
If they opposed it, then they would have opposed it, since most of the voters were members of their denomination.
Rome did take a position, let it win.
Besides, I doubt Francis cares all that much. If anything, he is secretly pleased with the outcome.
Catholicism isn't a democracy or a popularity contest. Regardless of what people who call themselves Catholic think, it has no bearing on the inerrant Dogma, or the truth thereof.
"Which makes sense, since they are unquestionably a Catholic nation."
20% rate of practice. A person can call themselves pro-life, but if they vote pro-abortion, what does that make them? The Irish can call themselves Catholic, but if they don't practice the faith or obey the teachings, then they're full of hot air.
America has changed from the fountainhead of freedom, to the purveyor of filth.
Remember that old saying about one rotten apple spoiling the barrel? Guess what. It’s true. Tolerate Sodomy and the Sodomites take over.
Avenging the Church by legalizing homosexual “marriage” is ludicrous. One cannot logically think that the Church will feel responsible for a positive vote on legalizing a sinful union. The Irish are confusing the Catholic faith and the Catholic Church. One is infallibly true, the latter includes sinners, saints, and in-betweens. God bless the Catholics that actually put God first when they voted.
Not that I have anything against homosexuals, gays etc. as I have known some who were the nicest people I have known, and I didn’t’ feel the least offended. But I do feel sorry for them that nature caused them to deviate from what most humans consider to be normal and natural, besides I am also aware that on rare occasions such behavior maybe be found in the animal Kingdome. That is as long as they are not in my face insisting and trying to pound home the fact that it is normal and natural, along with parades and demonstrations or calling it a marriage when two of them join together, I wouldn’t even give it a second thought if it is referred to as a civil union etc. not to mention what they do in private is their own business.
What I take issue with, always have and probably always will is when a decidedly small minority regardless of their cause they espouse, insist to change rules and even laws to make the majority comply and accommodate their wishes, pleasure and whatever else they may dream up, even so not much more than their feelings may be hurt. All I can say is get over it, such is life get used to it.
It’s the same old story, no one is Catholic, not American Catholics, not Mexico’s Catholics, not even Ireland’s Catholics.
Even when Catholic Ireland votes overwhelmingly for gay marriage the Catholics here launch an attack to blame it on America.
Actually they seem to have looked at their church, and voted accordingly.
“The Church did not take an overt stand with regard to the Irish marriage-definition referendum.
A spokeswoman for Archbishop Diarmuid Martin of Dublin told the Irish Times on Wednesday it was not the archbishop’s policy “to tell others how to vote except to stress that, given the importance of marriage and the family, decisions should not be taken lightly and that people should be informed of what is involved.”
"The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it, and error is error even if every everyone believes it." ~ Archbishop Fulton Sheen.
LOL, the desperation is those Catholics trying to pin this on America.
This Catholic vote does NOT seem to have been done in spite of the Catholic church, who didn’t really seem to oppose it, that was their stand.
The Irish are about 85% Catholic, it used to be much higher.
This is Ireland’s vote.
“Even when Catholic Ireland votes overwhelmingly for gay marriage the Catholics here launch an attack to blame it on America”
You read the article and you ignored the article. The article specifically lays out who financed and manipulated the vote for sodomy. It was leftist Americans but you give them a pass. Very telling in-deed.
“Even when Catholic Ireland votes overwhelmingly for gay marriage the Catholics here launch an attack to blame it on America”
You read the article and you ignored the article. The article specifically lays out who financed and manipulated the vote for sodomy. It was leftist Americans but you give them a pass. Very telling in-deed.
I addressed that in my posts to you, “So a first generation Irish Catholic billionaire with ties to his parents homeland, is also a gay activist, it is wrong to blame America for what the Catholic people of Ireland just did.”
They just went to the polls as a nation, to overwhelmingly create gay marriage, a first in the world.
The Catholic church didn’t interfere with him, that was the stand on the issue that they chose.
““”Ruse pointed out the Catholic Church in Ireland did not provide a moral compass for the debate.
(snip)
The Church did not take an overt stand with regard to the Irish marriage-definition referendum.
A spokeswoman for Archbishop Diarmuid Martin of Dublin told the Irish Times on Wednesday it was not the archbishop’s policy “to tell others how to vote except to stress that, given the importance of marriage and the family, decisions should not be taken lightly and that people should be informed of what is involved.””
You cannot continue to create fantasies to explain catholic politics, especially in this overwhelmingly massive, Irish vote.
I have been looking for some information n the numbers. It was said elsewhere that 62% of the eligible voters voted. Then that it won by 60% of the vote. That leaves 40% of eligible voters who didn’t go to the polls, and of those that did, 40% were on the No side.
Can’t we just unvote this?
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