1,000 weapons recovered at Waco biker brawl? Not quite, cops now say

LATimes ^ | 5-21-2015 | Micheal Muskal

[Talisker]

The locals were tired of the constant fights at these meeting and demanded the police do something about it.

Well I guess it must piss you off that the cops screwed up so badly then - look how many bikers they left alive.

[WayneS]

Personally, I think it is foolish to go out UNarmed.

[TexasGator]

“It was a regularly scheduled meeting of the Confederation of Clubs.”

LOL. The Texas Coalition of Clubs and Independents is run by the 1%’ers. The chairman and several officers are Banditos.

The agenda was to sort out turf issues. Sad when the good bikers have to answer to the Banditos on what they wear and where they ride.

[WayneS]

Stop the propaganda.

After you, sir.

[Cold Heat]

” If I were an upstanding biker I would be doing what I could to disassociate myself from the criminal element.”

What would you do? Wear a three piece suit??? Carry a briefcase?

[TexasGator]

“The problem is that the “good guys” are being charged, and lumped with the “bad guys”.”

That is a problem when you go to a gang meeting and get caught in the middle of a gang shoot-out.

Now maybe they won’t be so eager to associate with the gangs.

[al baby]

Not at all

[Zhang Fei]

What I’ve heard is that the official number has not been released.

I'm as pro-cop as they get, and I think convicted murderers should receive exemplary punishment (i.e. live burial) both to exact vengeance and to deter others, but bikers have generally struck me as annoyances rather than degenerate killers. Real life isn't some Sons of Anarchy episode. I'm very suspicious of the police (thin blue line syndrome) and media (liberal anti-white syndrome) accounts so far.

[Fido969]

The figured out that 680 of the weapons were police “drop downs”.

[WayneS]

I always wonder why, if they are not criminal, do the wear all the trappings of criminals?

What "trappings" are those?

[RightOnTheBorder]

I wish there was a way to quickly sort the good from the bad but when the good purposely look like, dress like, and show up at the same places as the bad, what else can the police do when you have 200 possible suspects? The only alternative as I see it is to let everyone go and try and track down the bad guys later.

[TexasGator]

Him:” If I were an upstanding biker I would be doing what I could to disassociate myself from the criminal element.”

You: What would you do? Wear a three piece suit??? Carry a briefcase?

1. I would not be defending the MC gangs and saying they should be respected.

2. I would not be going to their ‘meetings’.

3. I would condemn their criminal behavior.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"However, the very political nature of the Texas Confederation of Clubs and Independents and its website raise troubling First Amendment questions about the police trying to pressure a business to shut down a lawful political meeting that had never led to problems previously, regardless of the people at that meeting"

Ok, there is no doubt as to what bike gangs these were (Banditos, Cossacks, Scimitars. Vaqueros, etc..). As I understand it, there is also no doubt that the FBI have labeled all of these biker gangs Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs or OMGs. If I were a restaurant owner armed with these facts, I wouldn't even need the police telling me to not host these meetings. When criminals get together for meetings, they are usually meeting to discuss criminal activities. Whether they be OMGs or the bloods and cripts. Then there was also the FBI bulletin that said the Bandidos want to knock off the Cossacks. That only adds to the legitimacy of what the police were trying to do. I can't see how you fault the police for trying to prevent crime.

[WayneS]

Stop the propaganda.

[WayneS]

Stop the propaganda.

[Cold Heat]

Actually I have known several “Bandito’s” in my days.......

Secondly.....I am very offended by your use of the term ...”gangs”...

Clubs do group meetings all the time, generally for the purposes of political activism regarding proposed legislation.

These “gangs” as you refer to them are just as entitled to their rights as you are.

[the_daug]

I’d say witnessing the Gospel of Christ.

Luk 5:31 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick.
Luk 5:32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

[WayneS]

Or, they could do quick background checks on each one and release him if he has a clean record and/or no outstanding warrants.

It certainly would not take 4 days to do that 170 times.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"I wish there was a way to quickly sort the good from the bad"

But that's the point, there is a way to sort the good from the bad. The OMGs proudly self identify. If you're a restaurant owner and a biker gang with patches on their vests say Patriot Riders, serve them. If the patches say Bandidos, don't let them have meetings in your restaurant.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"Actually I have known several “Bandito’s” in my days......."

Are you insinuating that they are nice guys who are not criminals? Are you saying that the FBI is wrong to label the Bandidos as an OMG?