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In Waco carnage, a message to America
CNN ^ | May 18, 2015 | Errol Louis, CNN Political Commentator

Posted on 05/18/2015 12:20:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

)—Even while the horrific details from the fatal gang battle in Waco, Texas, filter in, it's not too soon to ask: Is this who and what we have become as a nation? A place where a shootout between five heavily armed criminal gangs can unfold at a restaurant, in full view of law enforcement, leaving nine dead, 18 hospitalized and some 170 people arrested?

Law enforcement officers knew at least a week in advance that a horde of bikers was converging on the Twin Peaks restaurant, where the massacre took place, and stationed a dozen local and state officers on the scene -- including members of a SWAT team.

But that didn't stop the gangsters from clashing with knives, clubs, and guns. Police say the bikers fired at each other, and eventually at the officers who tried to stop the carnage.

Are Americans now so lawless that presence of law enforcement doesn't deter gunplay?

Innocent patrons and restaurant staffers hid inside a freezer, KWTX reported. It's a minor miracle that no cops, restaurant employees or diners were hurt or killed.

Twin Peaks held regular events called "bike nights." Concerned about the possibility of violence, Waco police had asked Twin Peaks to try to keep biker gangs away....

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; secondamendment; shootings; texas; twinpeaks; waco
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To: TexasCajun

Same here. Have not heard of biker gang violence myself since I was a kid and it was about the Hades Angels.


21 posted on 05/18/2015 12:32:02 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is what happens when a nation despises God.


22 posted on 05/18/2015 12:32:15 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unintended consequences echoing from Baltimore? “we also gave those who wished to destroy space to ...” ... perps were content to, um, keep it among themselves until the police got in the way. The official demeaning of local police creates a power vacuum which WILL be filled by those favoring the law of the jungle. Where there isn’t such a vacuum, those inspired by the one in Baltimore may test local law enforcement to see how serious they are.


23 posted on 05/18/2015 12:32:24 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Hillary:polarizing/calculating/disingenuous/insincere/ambitious/inevitable/entitled/overconfident/se)
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To: greene66

Hooters-Style Restaurant Featuring Scantily Clad Male Servers Coming To Dallas’ Gayborhood
http://www.towleroad.com/2015/04/hooters-style-restaurant-featuring-scantily-clad-male-servers-coming-to-dallas-gayborhood.html


24 posted on 05/18/2015 12:32:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: tcrlaf

I thought Sturgis was Angels turf?


25 posted on 05/18/2015 12:32:45 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whatchya think, Errol? Where are we as a society?

26 posted on 05/18/2015 12:32:47 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's a minor miracle that no cops, restaurant employees or diners were hurt or killed.

The participants were not apparently interested in harming employees, diners, or police. Their focus appears to have been on each other, and they apparently limited their fire to those targets.

That's better shooting than the police usually do in many urban areas.

27 posted on 05/18/2015 12:34:26 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We haven’t seen crazies killing people like this around Waco since the FBI slaughtered 76 people in the Branch Davidian compound 22 years ago.


28 posted on 05/18/2015 12:34:58 PM PDT by Iron Munro (We may be paranoid but that doesn't mean they aren't really after us)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dangit, you would have to go and harsh my mellow.


29 posted on 05/18/2015 12:35:30 PM PDT by greene66
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To: BuffaloJack
Well if you are black you get freebie riots for those gimme prizes. Is that sufficiently lawless?
30 posted on 05/18/2015 12:36:16 PM PDT by nomad
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To: NorthMountain

lil errol would prefer that all this talk bout ferguson...or was that Baltimore...? go away cause it SO racess!.


31 posted on 05/18/2015 12:36:27 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: tcrlaf
I really didn't recognize any of these Biker Gangs.

So even though violent, were these weekend Biker Gangs?

Don't real Biker Gangs prefer the strip clubs?

32 posted on 05/18/2015 12:36:47 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: NorthMountain

Last time I checked tattoos were expensive, right? Yet the person in the top photo has to steal paper towels and drink mix?


33 posted on 05/18/2015 12:37:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Last time I checked, “Corrections Officer” was a reasonably well paying job. Yet, two of them had to steal Tostitos and Slim Jims in order to stave off starvation?


34 posted on 05/18/2015 12:38:56 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe PART of the problem is that police don’t feel like risking their lives for nothing.

The least that could happen to him is a trip to slam for presuming to enforce the laws he’s been hired, trained and paid to do.


35 posted on 05/18/2015 12:39:10 PM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: greene66

That’s the second or third such bar & grill in Dallas from what I saw during my search. Imagine what San Francisco looks like...


36 posted on 05/18/2015 12:39:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Errol here needs to go back and read all about the mob wars that wracked Chicago, New York, Atlantic City, Cleveland, etc. during the 1930s before uttering his nonsense.


37 posted on 05/18/2015 12:40:45 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Pietro

Good point.


38 posted on 05/18/2015 12:41:48 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Are Americans now so lawless that presence of law enforcement doesn’t deter gunplay?”

For a minute there I thought he was referring to the Baltimore riots. My mistake.


39 posted on 05/18/2015 12:42:06 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

40 posted on 05/18/2015 12:42:58 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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