Posted on 05/08/2015 1:23:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Via Mediaite. We live in strange times when MSNBC’s 8 p.m. guy is more likely to defend Pam Geller for goofing on Mohammed than Fox News’s is.
Touche:
@allahpundit @JohnEkdahl Jesus also wouldn’t point his pen holding finger at guests on a talk show either. WWBD?
— Danger Zone (@dtom_molonlabe) May 8, 2015
Yeah, the “I’m more like Jesus than you are” game is a hard one to win. But his point here is mainly tactical … I think. If you want to convince Muslims to accept values like free speech that are championed by the Christian west, the Golden Rule is a better approach than mocking their prophet until they grudgingly agree to tolerate blasphemy. Do unto them as you’d have them do unto you. He’s not saying Jesus would refuse to offend religious or cultural orthodoxy — I hope, given the many Biblical passages to the contrary. He just prefers a less antagonistic pitch in a hearts-and-minds campaign and, O’Reilly being O’Reilly, can’t resist calling Jesus as his first witness. Overturning the money-changers’ tables may have been righteous but the Sermon on the Mount did more to make believers of the unfaithful. And if there’s anyone in media who eschews combativeness for tender persuasion, it’s … Bill O’Reilly.
All of which is fine, I guess, if you believe that Christians abiding by Islamic norms on images of Mohammed would make Muslims more likely to abide by broader western norms on free speech. I don’t. I think self-censoring blasphemy actually teaches that intimidation works and that jihadis can and should get to work on threatening people over other aspects of western culture that offends them, like gay marriage or educating women. Defending blasphemy is as much about holding the line against further deterioration of the west’s cultural influence as it as about the virtues of blasphemy itself. And I’m curious to know after watching this: What else wouldn’t Jesus do in the name of not offending Islam? Muslims may find mocking Mohammed offensive but it wouldn’t surprise me if you polled them and discovered that U.S. military adventures in the Middle East offend them more. Doves like to taunt right-wing hawks by asking “Who would Jesus bomb?”, but I think that’s actually a fair question to ask O’Reilly after this. Who would Jesus bomb? If drawing cartoons is a bridge too far for JC, how about drone strikes?
FUBO.
Wanna bet Bill? What did he say about Dad?
Jesus was a better human than I. He’s a lot better Savior.
That’s not the point.
Oldplayer
Jesus did a number of things to point out problems in the society of his day.
That’s all Geller did.
She focused on Mohammad, and that drew terrorists out of the woodwork.
Does O’Reilly honestly think Jesus wouldn’t have called Mohammad out?
John the Baptist called the King out. Does O’Reailly think he was ungodly?
I hope not to over simplify things, but, I think we can sum it up this way:
If it’s okay to have Piss Christ, and the Virgin Mary covered in dung, and call it art, then it’s okay to have a Mohammed cartoon comic drawing contest.
If the Christians who are deeply offended by Piss Christ have to tolerate it, because of freedom of speech/freedom of expression, then Muslims who are deeply offended by portrayals of Mohammed also must tolerate it.
Maybe when Jesus wrote with his finger on the ground, while contemplating the case of the woman found committing adultery, He was drawing a picture of Mohammed.
But seriously, I think He’s much more likely to have walked into their mosques and called them a brood of vipers, sons of Satan, hypocrites, and idolaters.
Does Bill O’Reilly think that would be an appropriate course of action for today’s Christians?
Yeah, since Mohammad lived seven centuries after Jesus.
Someone tell O’R that if the Muzzies could get their hands on Jesus they would probably try to behead him.
Yeah, that’s pretty much it.
If Christians and Christianity can be criticized,
so can Islam and Muslims.
He’d have turned over their tables in the church and rebuked all the acts of evil they were engaging in (might take a full day to name them all tho) right before he cast the demons out of them
No, what Jesus will do to the Muslims when He returns is going to be a lot less hospitable than drawing some cartoons, I think.
Jesus called out the Pharisees and Sadducees, who worshipped his Father, how would he have not done the same for those worshiping a false god?
Mabye Ted Baxter could write a book: Killing Mohammed.
Very good point.
The pretty much sums it up. Now if the children could just calm down and behave sensibly.
Right. Jesus was meek and mild and nice to everyone at all times.
Like when he told his enemies their father was Satan, and went on a rampage, turning over tables, releasing animals, dumping money on the ground, etc.
Yeah. Jesus was all about dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, dialogue...
Jesus would have pissed on Mohammed
OReilly gets to play the Jesus card because he wrote a book about Jesus Ya know....so he knows EVERYTHING there is to know about Jesus. He’s practically a Catholic priest.
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