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To: Olog-hai

“Is this supposed to be an illustration of Obama’s view of the UK?”

Swing and a miss sport. That’s a retardedly false choice that I must either be an anglophile, or to espouse Obamas deranged viewpoints.

There is a realistic way to view England. Neither enemy, nor friend. Most of our history has had this relationship. In the 1920s as the naval treaty was being negotiated, the British wanted battleships sufficient to cover worldwide. They wanted the US held to a level that could not challenge them. We insisted on a different ratio.

Yes, in the 1920s it was not a foregone conclusion we would not fight someday.

In the civil war they intervened with the goal of spitting the union.
Today is the day the Lusitania was sunk. We were neutral at that time. The British demanded we not trade with Germany and was willing to sink our neutral shipping to enforce it.

Eisenhower refused to jump in when the Brits decided to seize the Suez from Nasser.

Sometimes as in WWII, and in the cold war, our interests converge. When our interests do not, they tend to try to involve us (Balkans war). Or they tend to follow their own goals no matter what it does to us. (London banking in the 2008 crisis,,, London oil speculation that lead to the huge price spike in 2007, setting us up for the 2008 crisis.)

They aren’t enemies, but their government no longer shares the values of the average American. The older people, traditional Brits do, but their government cant seem to regard us as anything but a colony that got out of hand.
That is just my observation.

I really don’t understand this anglophilia,,governmentally speaking. They are gun banners, totalitarian in speech codes (recently arrested the man who sang Kung Fu fighting song) they are solidly with the sodomites,,,,etc.

But I really liked Top Gear, and Shepherds Pie, and their Whiskey up north!


39 posted on 05/07/2015 2:54:21 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

In the civil war (the UK) intervened with the goal of spitting the union …
There is no evidence of that, not even with Laird & Sons building two ships for the South. Sounds like Neoconfederate propaganda to me.

Today is the day the Lusitania was sunk. We were neutral at that time. The British demanded we not trade with Germany and was willing to sink our neutral shipping to enforce it.
You accusing the Brits of sinking the Lusitania?? never mind having a bizarre view of Germany of that era?

Anyone who denies a “special relationship” between the UK and USA, even without explicitly saying so, is reinforcing Obama’s doctrine thereof. With all due respect.
42 posted on 05/07/2015 3:04:54 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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