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1 posted on 05/04/2015 7:55:50 PM PDT by Paid_Russian_Troll
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It's an old narrative, and it's as much a lie now as it was in the 1950's when American liberals, communists, and fellow-travelers pushed the bogus claim that Russia was explained by her paranoia, and that only by acceding to the demands of hardliners could we diffuse the thinking and give the moderates their chance to convince the Party and eventually the Politburo that we meant no harm.

It's rubbish.

2 posted on 05/04/2015 8:06:18 PM PDT by FredZarguna (On your deathbed you will receive total consciousness. So I got that goin' for me.)
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I believe Lukin is mistaken. We have lost our belief in God, and our belief that America is the embodiment of truth.

We still pursue bringing that truth to the world, but it’s more out of habit, like an elderly man chasing skirts, he doesn’t quite remember why, and wouldn’t have the ability to do anything should he actually catch one, but he still chases.


3 posted on 05/04/2015 8:12:41 PM PDT by null and void (My favorite drawings at the Muhammad cartoon festival in Texas were the two chalk outlines out front)
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the accepted worldview: that Russia is under constant threat from a hostile and irrational United States.

That sounds about right. America is more and more actually ruled by a Moslem with world conquest by Islam in mind. Irrational? yes and he is working hard for that World Moslem Revolution.

5 posted on 05/04/2015 8:32:28 PM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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Lukin has got it all wrong, but it is a rather interesting and even somewhat comical take on things.

We would be better off if every American did see one truth that comes from God. That is very far from how it really is. As far as God making the United States, God made every country and judges all equally, but He is not neutral about behavior (and the U.S. is on the downgrade there). Those who obey God get His favor. For the religious among us, that is how it is. But many Americans loathe that view even as they pretend to be religious.

As for the ruling class in the U.S. trying to crush Russia, you have to understand how diverse and polarized that ruling class is to understand that that can never be 100% true here. It depends who is in power at the time. I think that is hard for Russians to grasp because they haven’t got a lot of experience in freedom of thought and expression, individual rights, voting, etc. They may be getting there, but they are beginners and cannot always grasp how it is here.

Clearly some people in the world desire to keep Russia weak. I think they tell themselves the reason is that a powerful Russia is dangerous. I think at least some of them deceive themselves about their own motives.

I do think many people have trouble viewing Russia as anything other than a communist country. It may take a new generation of rulers to let go of that. But it works both ways. Russians seem to view the west in Cold Wars terms, too.

Some of the things Russia desires — economic growth, increased power and status int he world under their new order, etc.— are perfectly normal and understandable. Their concern about their own security and the encroachment of NATO is understandable (to me anyways). But they might do well to be less provocative. They may be getting no where with this U.S. regime but just wait. We will have a new one soon. Its an opportunity for a fresh start. You just can’t view the U.S. as all one thing or another. We are a country divided. That is not all bad.

Happy Victory Day on, what, May 9th? May you have a wonderful and deserved celebration. I wish the U.S. would be represented at the festivities.


6 posted on 05/04/2015 8:36:38 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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Lukin has it wrong. He could come to understand about 40% of all Americans by spending a couple of weeks watching all the old John Wayne and Clint Eastwood cowboy movies. He could come to understand another 40% of Americans by spending a few weeks watching Ellen, Oprah, and Jerry Springer reruns.


8 posted on 05/04/2015 9:09:28 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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Delusional hippie bullshit.


9 posted on 05/04/2015 9:10:19 PM PDT by Krosan
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Long before the US was a world power and long before
there was such a thing as the USSR there was paranoid
Russia. The current crop of Russians need to familiarize
themselves with a concept known as introspection.


10 posted on 05/04/2015 9:16:12 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf ;-))
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Gibmedat?


12 posted on 05/04/2015 9:30:42 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Hillary, because it's time for a POTUS without a SCROTUS...)
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We have several Russian neighbors here in S Florida. Pro American and anti Obama.

We discussed world events and national politics and I dont really see much diff between them and others from other eastern Europe in views towards the US.

Russians seem to take pride in there misery tho.


15 posted on 05/05/2015 2:47:43 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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This model of American behavior is grotesquely mistaken, to be sure, and actions taken on its basis are likely to be in error. Consider, though, that our own State Department is chock-full of “experts” equally sure of themselves and equally mistaken. For evidence I offer our floundering in the Middle East: Libya, Egypt, Syria, Libya again at Benghazi, Yemen, for each of these there was somebody directing traffic at State who thought it was a good idea. I’m willing to forgive Mr. Lukin his delusions, I just wish we could get rid of ours.


20 posted on 05/05/2015 9:49:45 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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