Posted on 05/03/2015 7:59:56 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
They do this in many places.
Amazingly, they never run out of dealers OR drugs.
The hard line approach does *not* work.
I am not for everybody doing drugs. I’m for letting go of an ineffective approach and trying something that has had success in other places.
I’m also about NOT giving up more of our freedoms in the name of the WOD.
Yep legalize all drugs! Better than having the government decide whats best for me. Interfering with doctors and patients. Using property seizure laws to steel. War on drugs screwed up in so many ways.
De-Federalize the war on drugs and let the states decide. Honestly, I don’t care what individual states decide; I’m sure there will be a variety of interesting differences.
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Good move!
The most rational and compassionate solutions would emerge. And...It is the constitutional thing to do.
There is only one class of drugs needing to be regulated: Antibiotics!
When used improperly there is the real threat to the rest of us of resistant infections.
Don’t forget the Clintons.
Shoot him on the spot?
Sorry! There is plenty wrong with that.
How about ending the War on People started by the drug dealers?
I wish you felt as strong or stronger about that as you apparently do on this.
Really, joker?
You really think that’s the kind of “dealer” I have in mind here?
You really cannot understand what I am referring to? Or are you just trying to do your best to put up some kind of splinter argument exception that somehow makes my idea meritless?
Go back to your doobie.
That is my exact suggestion above your post. I refer to DEALERS. Not users. We got to save the users. Dealers don’t give a sh1t about their addict buyers. They care nothing about them as people and care nothing about what impact this has on the community they prey in.
God bless you. You learned the proper use of your sepcific pain meds.
You certainly weren’t doing it to get high or to get hooked. Or jsut to see how it is.
These people are still going to be charged with a lot of crimes related to the drug use. You cannot eleiminate all laws per illegal drugs because there is no legal leverage to get them to consider stopping. I would consider crime enhancements if a person is on drugs and commits crimes.
Drugs make people dangerous. They don’t think clearly and when they’re jonesing and need money they become desperate and dangerous. To ignore the drugs they are taking ignores why the crimes are committed and ignores the seriousness we need to take about illegal drugs and the people on them. There are no good social benefits to having people addicted to such drugs.
They need to be like alcohol laws. But they also need to be enforced because if, like unenforced alcohol laws, they don’t work as intended if they’re always plea bargained out, or dismissed for one reason or another.
War on drugs endangers liberty. Let big Pharma provide for addicts through health care. Use the money for research. The fed should only establish standards.
I was sick with the flu but can not buy codeine cough syrup in my state over the counter. Doctors cost money and avoid scripting narcotics cause DEA scrutiny. I put myself in jeopardy to buy a black market narcotic so I can sleep at night.
War on Drugs keep Cops employed and drug dealers rich.
Ah, yes — the solution here is to forgo even a jury trial and jump straight to killing them.
That's the solution! Become even more lawless, appealing straight to the might makes right philosophy.
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First off, you didn't make any qualifications as to what sorts of drugs.
Second, the definitions of drug
and dealing
will be expanded to increase governmental power… I can easily imagine bibles being considered opiate for the masses and even giving them away free considered dealing.
The reason that there's a presumption of innocence, the reason that there's a fourth, fifth, sixth, and eighth amendment is precisely because these sorts of abuses are a temptation to governments and their agents.
[ Exterminate all drug dealers On the spot.
Ah, yes — the solution here is to forgo even a jury trial and jump straight to killing them.
That’s the solution! Become even more lawless, appealing straight to the might makes right philosophy.
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Isn’t Blaming the drug dealers sorta like blaming the 711 that sells a slurpie for the making people overweight?
At some point blaming the fork does nothing but make the people who want to use the fork get more creative about shoveling food into their mouths.
This is the driving force behind all black markets.
As for solutions, the best solution is to take care of your children and raise them the best you can.
Really pretty simple solution to this.
Get arrested dealing drugs, you get full due process of the law. No bail, you are remanded to custody. And if you are found guilty it is an automatic 20 years. Could be for 1 joint or 1 kilo. Doesn’t matter.
If when caught there is a weapon, add 10 years.
Think that will end the drug problem pretty quickly. Stop going after the users. They want to kill themselves, so be it.
The War of Addiction is waged inside the body, the mind, and the soul of the addict. The only person who can win this war is the addict, and his only ally is Jesus Christ.
The reason that the addict himself is the only one who can win his war of addiction is because he is the only one who is with himself all day, every day of his life. He must be the guardian of his own temple. He is the one who stands at the door. No one else can do this duty for any of us.
The reason that Jesus Christ is the only ally of the addict, is because addiction is a malady of the spirit. The addict engages in his addiction of choice because he believes the feeling he derives from the addiction of choice alleviates the pain felt in the spirit, but it doesn’t. It adds to it over time and destroys everything around the addict and the addict as well.
Jesus Christ is what fills our spirit with love. It is He who makes our weaknesses into our strengths. It is He who helps us stand when we have fallen. We find Jesus inside ourselves when we ask Him in.
If an addict truly wants to be free of the chains that bind him, the chains that he bound himself with, then he first prays to Jesus Christ and asks Him for His Love and Strength, then he unwraps the loops one by one, then he walks away, and he never returns to where he left them.
That is how a man beats his addiction. It is not a battle that a government can win or that a law can win. Only the addict can win.
It’s fun to bring up things the other person didn’t mention to then go and argue against the things that were never brought up by the person you want to aruge with.
I think it’s very clear. Hard core drug dealers. that are well known to law enforcement and probably most of the community they prey in. I doubt my clarification makes any difference to you anyway, so I wonder why you bring it up other than to attempt to denigrate.
As for your SPECULATION, it’s just that. You are the only one who’s equated books with drugs and then gone off to argue about that. Not me. You can keep arguing with yourself on that point.
Drug dealers are cancer on society. They destroy the very people they sell to and do not give two sh1ts about them. They don’t deal drugs because it’s a “freedom” thing. They do it for the effing money and everything else can go to hell. They are parasites. They are vermin. They sell stuff that they know is terrible for people and often add in crap to make it worse. They care nothing about their users. They care nothing about the families it harms. They care nothing about the costs to society that could be spent elsewhere that are directly and indirectly used up because of the tangible negative effects drugs have - at the individual level, family level, and community level.
They are scum. You know exactly the kind of person I ma describing. It’s not a vague broad definition. It’s a very specific definition, it’s the picture you picture in your head when you think of “hard core drug dealers”.
Don’t play the fool and don’t play me for a fool.
There was a time in the U.S. when there was no prohibition against drugs. Somehow we became the richest and most prosperous nation on earth.
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