Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The "War on Drugs" is dinosaur technology
Huffington POst ^ | 03/22/2015 | Johann Hari

Posted on 05/03/2015 7:59:56 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 181-188 next last
To: Secret Agent Man
Exterminate all drug dealers On the spot.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This is where the War on Drugs is leading. Tyranny!

Exterminate? On the spot? No, I don't support that because government with that power really is a “slippery slope” to gulags, re-education camps, and “disappearances”. It is a gateway power drug that oligarchs love and can't get enough of.

Gee! And...You call me a “joker”.

41 posted on 05/03/2015 11:25:06 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: EQAndyBuzz
Somehow I don't think this would apply to a Senator's son or daughter. Nope! Not at all. But...I bet the children of conservatives will feel the full weight of this draconian law.
42 posted on 05/03/2015 11:27:49 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: EQAndyBuzz
Get arrested dealing drugs, you get full due process of the law. No bail, you are remanded to custody. And if you are found guilty it is an automatic 20 years. Could be for 1 joint or 1 kilo. Doesn’t matter.

I'm philosophically against long sentences like life/20-years — they are the feel-good, pat-ourselves on the back for not-technically taking their lives but taking their lives in the ways that matter (20 years is essentially 1/4 of the lifespan, and it is enough time for kids to grow up and have their own kids) by caging them like an animal… in short, such long sentences devalue the human life and strip them of even the simple dignity of capital punishment.

I would even go so far as to claim that such long sentences are a violation of the Eighth Amendment.

43 posted on 05/03/2015 11:30:56 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: Secret Agent Man
It’s fun to bring up things the other person didn’t mention to then go and argue against the things that were never brought up by the person you want to aruge with.
I think it’s very clear. Hard core drug dealers.

No, it's not very clear — you said Exterminate all drug dealers On the spot nothing there would indicate hard core drug dealers and, in fact, the word all indicates universal quantification and it is therefore quite reasonable to take that to mean all drug dealers.

As for your SPECULATION, it’s just that. You are the only one who’s equated books with drugs and then gone off to argue about that. Not me. You can keep arguing with yourself on that point.

Really, I seem to recall that the DEA raided a woman's house because she shopped at a gardening store — and that's even before your active summary execution idea would be put into effect. Is there some reason to think that making it easier for government agents to kill people would make government agents more reasonable?

Drug dealers are cancer on society. They destroy the very people they sell to and do not give two sh1ts about them.

And, by that evaluation, so are politicians.
I suspect that summary execution of politicians would have a far more overarching effect on society than a few measly drug dealers.

Don’t play the fool and don’t play me for a fool.

I'm not.
But you seem to have far too much trust in the people that would be acting in the name of the government to wield this power justly.

44 posted on 05/03/2015 11:43:42 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: OneWingedShark

You seem to be a stickler for what I wrote.

Where did I say POLICE ought to be the ones executing the drug dealers. where did I say big brother should?

I didn’t.

I would not mind the community cleaning itself up and takig care of its own garbage.


45 posted on 05/04/2015 12:11:06 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: Secret Agent Man
Exterminate all drug dealers On the spot.

Agreed.

46 posted on 05/04/2015 12:21:24 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Lurker
I think I’m pro-Constitution.

Pro-drugs is pro-constitution?

47 posted on 05/04/2015 12:22:31 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Secret Agent Man
Drug dealers are the scum and death of neighborhoods and communities. They have caused more damage to people individually and destroyed more families just so they can make money off of addicted people. They care nothing for the people and communities they destroy peddling their sh1t.

The damage done by drug dealers to society is incalculable. It's time they pay. With their lives.

48 posted on 05/04/2015 12:26:01 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

And to be clear, I’m not talking about the dude who once bought extra for a buddy. I am talking about the well known drug dealers. Gangbanagers with a history of selling drugs. The ones the cops have files on and know well. The kind of people that you think of in your head when you hear the term “hard core drug dealer”.


49 posted on 05/04/2015 12:26:18 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: All

The War on Drugs has never been anything but a war on individual liberty.


50 posted on 05/04/2015 12:32:34 AM PDT by nightowl_jg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OneWingedShark
you said Exterminate all drug dealers On the spot nothing there would indicate hard core drug dealers and, in fact, the word all indicates

It's amazing to what extent some people will go to defend drug dealers, who are the lowest and most pernicious scum in our society, right down there with cannibals, child-killers and islamic terrorists.

51 posted on 05/04/2015 12:33:15 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

I just figure if the article is calling on us to end the war, this is one way to end the war. Pretty soon it would be regarded as way too dangerous and not worth it, to be a drug dealer.


52 posted on 05/04/2015 12:33:48 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: Secret Agent Man
Where did I say POLICE ought to be the ones executing the drug dealers. where did I say big brother should?
I didn’t.
I would not mind the community cleaning itself up and takig care of its own garbage.

Then what would prevent people in general from killing someone, dropping a baggie, and then claiming that they were killing a dealer?

53 posted on 05/04/2015 12:34:58 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: OneWingedShark
Then what would prevent people in general from killing someone, dropping a baggie,

Where would you get this "baggie" if all the dealers are dead?

54 posted on 05/04/2015 12:36:15 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
>> I think I’m pro-Constitution.
>
> Pro-drugs is pro-constitution?

The War on Drugs is predicated on the all-pervasive powers of the misreading of the Commerce Clause as per Wickard, the horrid decision of Raich which asserted that marijuana grown inside a state never having been sold at all was under the jurisdiction of the interstate commerce clause was only a small hop but still illustrates the length to which the courts will stretch to validate/justify the unjustifiable: not-commerce suddenly is commerce.

55 posted on 05/04/2015 12:39:48 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

I’m not defending them — I’m saying that that move is one that is very dangerous, and could easily get way out of hand, and it would likely destroy what remains of the 4th, 5th, and 6th amendments.


56 posted on 05/04/2015 12:41:59 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: Secret Agent Man

>> They resolved to decriminalize all drugs...
>> Exterminate all drug dealers On the spot.

I’m interested in a combination of the two where execution is a real option when dealing to minors.


57 posted on 05/04/2015 12:42:59 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

>> Then what would prevent people in general from killing someone, dropping a baggie,
>
> Where would you get this “baggie” if all the dealers are dead?

A small screw bag, a small sandwich bag... heck mash up some aspirin and make it look like the guy was defrauding his “customers” while you’re at it.


58 posted on 05/04/2015 12:43:47 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: OneWingedShark

Because of the very fact that law-abiding people by definition do not break the law. The people that would want ot clean up their communities of actual drug dealers would not do that because they could have already done non-lethal setups of people and called the cops on them.

The very fact law abiding people do not do this right now, when they could, they would not do it then either. For the real drug dealers - they are real drug dealers and everyone knows who they are.

Hell the cops know who they are now, and don’t do this kind of thing to them. Regular people don’t either.

Only criminals would do this kind of thing. So unless you somehow think we have this huge underclass of criminals just waiting to set up people and frmae them so they can then murder them under false pretenses, I’d like to see that evidence.

CCW people are another perfect example. They don’t go around setting up anyone. I would say cops have set more people up to be killed and place a knife or ham sandwich (gun) on them than CCW folks ever have.


59 posted on 05/04/2015 12:44:37 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: OneWingedShark
The War on Drugs is predicated on

The "war on drugs" doesn't go far enough. We should be invading countries that make drugs for sale on US streets. We should be shooting people who run meth labs on the spot. Tens of thousands of americans have had their lives ruined by drugs, their kids lives, and so on. It's hard to believe that Americans do not take this personally, as they should. Americans should respond to drug dealing and drug manufacturing with maximum prejudice.

60 posted on 05/04/2015 12:45:19 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 181-188 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson