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City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers
CBS Baltimore ^ | 5/1/15 | Cbs Baltimore

Posted on 05/01/2015 8:12:20 AM PDT by barmag25

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To: Nervous Tick
Oh, please. Stop it with the disingenuous bullshit. You know damn well what I mean.

No, I'm not being disingenuous. I am seriously asking - what evidence is out there to support any other credible version of events? There is speculation that he was trying to hurt himself, but speculation is not evidence.

21 posted on 05/01/2015 8:38:26 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

To use your same dubious “editorial we” tactic — “others here” on FR have “pointed out” NUMEROUS other accounts of what happened before the arrest, during the arrest, in the van, and after the ride that are at loggerheads with the simplistic set of events you postulate

Go look for yourself.


22 posted on 05/01/2015 8:42:16 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
I suppose that depends on the racial makeup of the officers involved in the arrest.


23 posted on 05/01/2015 8:43:56 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Yes, others have pointed out other possible accounts of what happened - namely, that Gray intentionally hurt himself. But that’s just speculation.


24 posted on 05/01/2015 8:47:46 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Dqban22

This will create a strong incentive for white Baltimore officers to leave the force, allowing Baltimore to hire more black officers, and saving it from a lot of pension costs for older white officers.


26 posted on 05/01/2015 8:56:16 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Unless it’s true.

Bye now.


28 posted on 05/01/2015 8:59:46 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: barmag25

I guess no grand jury in Baltimore?


29 posted on 05/01/2015 9:02:43 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: Nervous Tick
Unless it’s true.

Ahh, so it's not disingenous cherry picking if (you think) it's true. Gotcha.

30 posted on 05/01/2015 9:05:37 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: joshua c
I guess no grand jury in Baltimore?

Apparently, in Maryland the DA has the option of either pursuing a grand jury indictment, or filing charges herself and going before a judge in a probable cause hearing. Looks like she chose the latter.

31 posted on 05/01/2015 9:07:41 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: barmag25

Can we assume the City State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby is a democrat?

The ‘Queen of Sheba’ mayor is a democrat.

The whole Baltimore city council is democrat.

The police are democrats...

The police Union’s run by democrats.

Al Sharpton’s democrat.

The Baltimore Sun’s a democrat newspaper...

The DOJ investigating this is run by democrats.

The dead criminal was a democrat.

Rioters and looters in Baltimore are democrats...

Last time Baltimore had a Republican mayor was 1967...

We don’t have a dog in this fight.


32 posted on 05/01/2015 9:14:31 AM PDT by GOPJ (The thugs loot stores. The community leaders loot cities. - Daniel Greenfield)
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To: barmag25

I’d feel better about this if we had a few more facts.

This appears to be purely political with the police and Gray being pawns.


33 posted on 05/01/2015 9:21:46 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: PapaBear3625

I wonder what the qualifications are for becoming a LEO in Baltimore. Do you imagine one must have a high school education? Does it exempt blacks from snitches get stitches?


34 posted on 05/01/2015 9:36:43 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: barmag25

I look forward to the murder charges against the VA employees who let Veterans die while in their care.


35 posted on 05/01/2015 9:56:23 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: freeangel
Police departments nationally have had a hiring policy for a while, where they reject applicants with an IQ that's too high. In the linked article, an applicant unsuccessfully sued when he was rejected for having an IQ of 125 (corresponding to a test score of 33). Police depts only hire people with scores in the range 20-27 (21 corresponds to an IQ of 104, so we appear to be talking about an IQ range of about 100 thru 115)
36 posted on 05/01/2015 10:05:59 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: barmag25

I wonder why Chicago hasn’t had any problems with their cops. Do they have any to go after?


37 posted on 05/01/2015 10:18:16 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: rbg81

I suspect a MASSIVE epidemic of Blue Flu is about to hit Baltimore. . . .


38 posted on 05/01/2015 10:28:33 AM PDT by Salgak (Peace Through Superior Firepower. . . .)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
if you or I placed a person, shackled, in the back of a van, did not put a seatbelt on them, and then showed up someplace a half hour later to find the person with a broken neck, not breathing, how long do you think it would take to charge us with murder

The seatbealt requirement was only instituted just 9 days prior. It is possible the cops in question did not even know a belt was required.

BTW there were other people arrested in the van why did they survive and Freddie Gray didn't?

I think conservatives need a new conscience. Yours is woefully lacking.

39 posted on 05/01/2015 10:57:48 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (anarchotyranny-“we refuse to control real criminals (anarchy) so we control the innocent (tyranny)")
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
"I suppose that depends on the racial makeup of the officers involved in the arrest."

Having retired from a State law enforcement agency, the powers that be will take out as many innocent police officers as they can, just to get to one.

40 posted on 05/01/2015 10:58:24 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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