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As an Army vet, I agree. It all went downhill when they let us women into the military. *Rolleyes*

I mean, why did we need to get so uppity and actually JOIN? Why didn’t we know our place on the battlefield as did Oh, say, Molly Pitcher, Florence Nightingale, Gabrielle Petit, Elsie Inglis, Maria Bochkareva, Elsie Ott, Susan Travers, Lyudmila Pavlichenko or any modern day female Israeli?

Learn your history. We women have been fighting for freedom right beside our men the world over since the first shot was fired, but, by all means, make sure our collective contributions are ignored due to male ego, LOL!

How about female Military Police dogs or IED-sniffing dogs? Is that kosher? *SNORT*

Have YOU served your Nation? If not, then STFU.


14 posted on 05/01/2015 6:38:52 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
The truth is that women are physically inferior to men and less aggressive by nature (blame the Testosterone), lacking the "killer instinct" if you will. Even if by some fluke of nature a woman met all the on-paper requirements, she'd never, ever fit into the brotherhood bond that men form, and she'd very likely disrupt it. It's not ego, I'm just telling you what is.

That's not to say that there aren't SOME jobs that women can do in the military, but there are very few jobs that they can do better than men. And if you don't believe they're trying to lower standards so that women can meet the criteria, you haven't been paying attention.

Men and women are different. They're built for different purposes. It's not a knock on women to point out that they aren't made for combat, it's just an acknowledgement of fact. This push to put more women in more roles in the military is political correctness run amok, it's BS, and it's going to get people killed. Women need to stop trying to be men.

20 posted on 05/01/2015 6:59:43 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Cruz or lose!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

You forgot Grace Hopper.


23 posted on 05/01/2015 7:13:50 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

If I could ‘like’ this post I would.


28 posted on 05/01/2015 7:56:03 AM PDT by Anoreth (It is not moth eaten. It is superb.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“We women have been fighting for freedom right beside our men the world over since the first shot was fired, but, by all means, make sure our collective contributions are ignored due to male ego, LOL!”

Women have far less upper body strength than males. They run, on average, slower. They can pack less weight.

Are there things the average female can do in the military? Yes. Are there many things that women are largely unfit to do in the military? Yes.

My 6’1” 200lb SIL was in the infantry. By the end of two tours, he had damage to his brain, shoulders, neck, back & knees. His pancreas and liver belong in a 60+ year old man. He has to eat a heavily restricted diet and can no longer run. He can lift weights but needs to be careful and use much lighter weights. He is supposed to get an operation on his legs to remove some of the damage.

I did a tour in Afghanistan - at 49. 5’8” & 165 lbs, could run 1.5 miles in 9 minutes for my USAF PT test and do 80 pushups...but at 49, I really had no business in ground combat. I spent my time on the FOB, in part because I was no longer fit enough to belong in the field. I was in very good shape for a 49 year old guy, but I was the weakest link - and no honorable person wants to be the weakest link in a combat unit.

On the FOB, I was able to do some good still. I could still have flown combat missions OK. But I would have had no business in infantry at that point. Bifocals & 49 years had taken a toll.

And the vast majority of women I knew in the military could neither run a 6 minute mile nor do 80 pushups. For a great many things, from unloading supplies to putting up tents to getting a vehicle unstuck or picking up an injured guy...they ARE the weakest link in the unit.


29 posted on 05/01/2015 8:00:13 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

BTW - my last day in Jalalabad, I was carrying 150 lbs of gear to where we would get picked up. As I waddled beneath the load in the 100 deg heat, a 20 year old guy - about 6’ & 200 lbs - asked if he could help. He then picked up nearly 100 lbs of the gear that was in a dufflebag with one hand and carried it for me the last 300 yards.

That says all I need to know about ground combat and fitness. I could have whipped most of the women I met with one hand, but that guy could have beaten me senseless with one hand. There are times “wanting” just doesn’t count for squat.


31 posted on 05/01/2015 8:05:23 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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