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40 years after Saigon’s fall, US still hasn’t learned lessons of Vietnam
New York Post ^ | April 29, 2015 | Seth Lipsky

Posted on 04/29/2015 6:31:23 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Could it be that two generations from now our grandchildren are going to be watching a documentary about the consequences of America’s retreat in the Middle East?

That’s the question I am pondering this week on the 40th anniversary of the communist conquest of Indochina.

The event is being marked by the broadcast on PBS of Rory Kennedy’s documentary “Last Days in Vietnam.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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KEYWORDS: anniversary; vietnam
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1 posted on 04/29/2015 6:31:23 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

I saw that it was pretty good watch on rerun or get a chance watch it


2 posted on 04/29/2015 6:34:03 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: nickcarraway

The biggest lesson to learn from Vietnam was not to let politicians tell the military how to wage a war.


3 posted on 04/29/2015 6:39:37 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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To: nickcarraway
The dimoRats defunded Viet Nam so they could cut and run just like they are doing now..

They blamed the Veterans then just like...

4 posted on 04/29/2015 6:39:48 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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Two reasons:

1. The Dems wanted to weaken Nixon.
2. The Dems wanted to get their hands on the war money (remember revenue sharing with the states which followed immediately?)


5 posted on 04/29/2015 6:43:53 PM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: nickcarraway
Remember when the Vietcong took over Huế? They were able to round up every single government official, march them off into the jungle and kill them all in a single night

They knew exactly where they lived, who they visited, where they shopped and where they ate dinner, and when.

How you ask?

The cabbies had been providing the data on their every move for years in advance.

Soooo, where do most of the cabbies in your berg come from? In Washington DC, it's Somalia...

Just because we've forgotten the lessons of Huế and the lessons of the Sepoy Rebellion's "The Perfect Day" (scrubbed from Wiki, by the way) doesn't mean our enemies have.

6 posted on 04/29/2015 6:45:06 PM PDT by null and void (Is a crunchy spicy tuna roll with eel sauce too much to ask for?)
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To: FirstFlaBn
Two reasons:

1. The Dems wanted to weaken Nixon.
2. The Dems wanted to get their hands on the war money (remember revenue sharing with the states which followed immediately?)

3 the dimoRats hate anyone that had any ethics and courage so they attacked the Veterans.

7 posted on 04/29/2015 6:46:08 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: FirstFlaBn; mountainlion
1. The Dems wanted to weaken Nixon.

Vietnam blew up in LBJ's face before Nixon was president.

8 posted on 04/29/2015 6:47:56 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: null and void

Then-Senator John Kerry said, “Nothing bad happened in Viet Nam after we left.”
Maybe he should reprise his view after a look at the Middle East right now.


9 posted on 04/29/2015 6:55:41 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("If he were working for the other side, what would he be doing differently ?")
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To: nickcarraway

The biggest lesson we haven’t learned: Don’t let liberals get their hands on the levers of power in wartime.


10 posted on 04/29/2015 6:58:52 PM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant.)
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“Vietnam blew up in LBJ’s face before Nixon was president.”

That’s certainly true, but ask most Dimrats about Vietnam and they’ll refer to it as Nixon’s war. As putrid as the media is, they’re effective at educating willing fools.


11 posted on 04/29/2015 6:59:49 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: nickcarraway

We elected Obama.....twice. We have a hard time learning lessons.


12 posted on 04/29/2015 7:05:48 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Vietnam blew up in LBJ's face before Nixon was president.

Get your news from Walter Cronkite? The war was substantially won, despite LBJ's mismanagement. Nixon had almost finished the job until Watergate gave the Dems a pretext to cut funding. The 1973 oil embargo and resulting sharp economic downturn presented a double whammy for Nixon.

13 posted on 04/29/2015 7:10:30 PM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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LBJ and not Nixon.

Vietnam fell only 6 1/2 years after Nixon took office.


14 posted on 04/29/2015 7:14:14 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Eric in the Ozarks


Kerry Lied
Millions Died

15 posted on 04/29/2015 7:17:59 PM PDT by null and void (Is a crunchy spicy tuna roll with eel sauce too much to ask for?)
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His “uniform” is absurd.


16 posted on 04/29/2015 7:22:13 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("If he were working for the other side, what would he be doing differently ?")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

As is he.


17 posted on 04/29/2015 7:22:53 PM PDT by null and void (Is a crunchy spicy tuna roll with eel sauce too much to ask for?)
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To: nickcarraway

I watched the documentary last night and got just as mad as I was when it happened. I’ll always blame Ford for not telling congress to go to hell and turning the B-52s lose. And the whimps in congress from both parties.

I once talked to a South Viet Nam pilot who told me in the end they only had enough fuel to get to the target and back. Spies would tell the NVA and they’d move their camps back just out of reach. He said he could see them but didn’t have the fuel to get there then back to base. Lots of those guys died fighting with “sticks” against guns.


18 posted on 04/29/2015 7:38:14 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Obama voters are my enemy. And so are RINO voters.)
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To: blueunicorn6

The American people will never learn, never have, never will. We just have to hope for a miracle.


19 posted on 04/29/2015 7:52:09 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: mountainlion

Some of the key Hanoi Lobbyists who helped bring about the congressional cut in aid to So. Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos in the face of Hanoi’ all-out invasion, are in DC this week at a Kroc Center/NYU Institute conference about the war.

Speaking or scheduled to speak are the top Hanoi operatives including
Tom Hayden - the brains behind the Aid cut program, acting on, by his own admission in October, 1973, Hanoi’s directions given to him in Paris in mid-October.
Cora Weiss (nee Rubin, as in Soviet asset and listed Communist Party USA elector, Samuel Rubin/Foundation), longtime leader of the apparently CPUSA founded/dominated Women Strike for Peace (i.e. Pauline Rosen),of the POW family literally blackmail operation known as COLIFAM (join the antiwar protests or no mail from their relatives in Hanoi), and her German-born refugee husband, Peter Weiss, one of the top Marxist-aligned lawyers (a partner of the late William Kunstler and Morton Stavis/CPUSA).
Ron Young - Of the various Mobilization Committees to end the War in Vietnam, then against Israel as a pro-Palestinian activist
Charles Clements- a doctor who aided the FLMN Marxist guerrillas in El Salvador. Former Air Force officer. Now works on “human rights” projects.
Daniel Ellsberg - of the Pentagon Papers affairs. Turned on US policy after having been a hawk. Blamed it on the PP papers which he knew was only part of the story. His late partner on the project, Anthony Russo, was an out and out vocal supporter of the communists in Hanoi.
Marilyn Young - NYU professor and founder of the maoist-oriented Committee of Concerned Asian Scholars. A nice person but still a hardcore red (see some info on her at www.keywiki.org, search under her name).

And there are more Marxist, or just hate-America radicals there in the audience or on stage, such as Phyllis Bennis, Marxist from Crossroads, Institute for Policy Studies, and the Vietnamese-American Friendship group during the war. A real anti-Israel wackjob, but slick as a greased pig.

The conference was taped by CSPAN and should appear after it ends on Friday.

There is a red stench in DC this week because the number of traitors who have gathered in one place.


20 posted on 04/29/2015 8:13:52 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (madmax)
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