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1 posted on 04/29/2015 10:20:27 AM PDT by Kaslin
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So, because baseball didn’t take strong action against steroids earlier on, that means that baseball’s strict rules about gambling should not be enforced???


2 posted on 04/29/2015 10:26:48 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Why even have a Hall of Fame anymore?

With the Internet having everyone's stats out there, there's no need to single out anyone for special recognition.

Leon Wagner's out there just as much as Babe Ruth.

3 posted on 04/29/2015 10:27:10 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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The Hall of Fame is a separate issue from Rose being reinstated. The Hall of Fame is voted on by the baseball writers, who are completely separate from the administration of major league baseball. I would also point out that Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens,etc. Have had weak support in Hall of Fame voting. They are not banned from baseball but are still being punished, if that’s the right word, by not being in the Hall of Fame in spite of their statistical accomplishments.


4 posted on 04/29/2015 10:31:22 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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The problem for Rose, is that we all thought of him as “Charlie Hustle”. When you bet on your own games, it means there is an incentive to “Charlie NOT Hustle quite so much”.

Should there be a policy against that?

Should the penalties for that be the strongest of any penalties, concerning the game?

Baseball is a competition sport. If the fans want to be entertained, they can go watch a movie or see a play.

When they go see baseball, they root for the home team, and want to see an honest effort. If that ‘honest effort’ isn’t a factor, Baseball dies.

Baseball has a vested interest in making sure players know they can’t toy with tossing games for profit.

Who knew?


5 posted on 04/29/2015 10:38:31 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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Rose broke the rules, he needs to pay the price.

But those players who achieved notoriety while taking steroids need to pay as well. Regardless of how popular they are.

6 posted on 04/29/2015 10:39:18 AM PDT by skeeter
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wah wah wah! poor rich pete rose! he was such a big shot gambling on his own sport, denying it when caught, even attacking those who exposed his chicanery...now he wants it all to be made better.

you broke the rule, crybaby. you knew what would happen. grow up and take your medicine.

and most importantly take your pathetic ass and go away


7 posted on 04/29/2015 10:48:01 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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If he is reinstated, he would then be eligible to coach or even manage a minor or major league team. Given his longstanding ties to Las Vegas, would folks be OK with him as the hitting coach of the Cincinnati Reds?


8 posted on 04/29/2015 10:55:17 AM PDT by oincobx
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He was caught; he owned up to it;

Wrong. He lied about it for 15 years after he was kicked out of the game. Only when he decided to make some money writing a 'tell-all' book did he come clean. These were not nickel and dime bets either. He was betting thousands of dollars on games.

He was a good player, but he does not belong in the HoF.

9 posted on 04/29/2015 10:57:13 AM PDT by Ditto
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People forget how big a threat gambling was. When Rose came up, the minimum salary was $5000. The team bus driver made that much!

Nowadays, there is no gambler alive rich enough to buy off a pro athlete.

It's Curt Flood and Marvin Miller who deserve to be in the HOF. They forced the free market into baseball.

10 posted on 04/29/2015 11:16:12 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Peace On Earth! Purity of Essence! McCain/Ripper 2016)
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By protesting against ANY Pete Rose re-instatement, I stand with those who want to to help protect the game--an American game, a game that was once played by so many that it was called the national past-time.

To simply overlook the fact that Rose gambled on the outcome of games is a snide reminder that there is a double standard going on here. Were Pete Rose black, I'm willing to guess, based on past experience, that many would be hysterical and hateful toward him for his ethics violation.
13 posted on 04/29/2015 12:26:28 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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Baseball will never become as low as politics IMHO.

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14 posted on 04/29/2015 12:29:07 PM PDT by Mears (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."Voltaire))
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We are talking about the Baseball Hall of Fame.

The all-time hits leader Pete Rose is banned from the Hall of Fame. Ditto Joe Jackson who had the second highest batting average in the history of the major league game. Ditto several others not actually banned but who will apparently be rejected by the writers union: all time home run leader Barry Bonds, best pitcher of his generation Roger Clemens, single season home run leader Mark McGuire, and 42 year old Alex Rodriguez who has 659 home runs and counting after missing two years. Was Bud Selig elected Commissioner or pope? Is this to be the Baseball Hall of Mediocrity?

Without those six, and undoubtedly several more, the Hall will not be what it was intended to be. Belonging to the Ku Klux Klan did not disqualify Tris Speaker, Rogers Hornsby and Ty Cobb who also stabbed a black restaurant waiter with a steak knife for perceived insolence and many others. OTOH, what would the Hall of Fame be without them? Enough, if the Baseball Writers' Guild (those who can will play and those who can't will in some cases wind up as moralizing writers) wants a Hall of the Morally Acceptable, let them erect one but the Hall of Fame is where they guys who played superbly (ALL of them) are enshrined.

15 posted on 04/29/2015 4:33:15 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Rack 'em Danno!)
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