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Christians are leaving the faith in droves and the trend isn't slowing down
Yahoo ^ | April 28, 2015 | Matthew Speiser

Posted on 04/28/2015 2:22:57 PM PDT by detective

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To: editor-surveyor; elcid1970

Pinging you both to my post #40


41 posted on 04/28/2015 3:08:51 PM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: iowamark

“Demography is destiny”

Have you seen Demographic Winter?


42 posted on 04/28/2015 3:09:38 PM PDT by NorthstarMom (God says debt is a curse and children are a blessing, yet we apply for loans and prevent pregnancy.)
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To: detective
Christians leaving Jesus Christ as Redeemer/Savior, I think not.

They might be leaving a denomination (especially those that have become apostate and no longer believe in or preach the Bible as the Word of God) but I seriously doubt they've given up following our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

If they are claiming that to be true, they were never, believers in the first place!

"The gates of Hell will never snatch them out of My hand!"

43 posted on 04/28/2015 3:13:25 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: detective
...Islam is expected to catch up to Christianity midway through the 21st century.

I am so glad I won't be around for it. My kids and grandkids are less fortunate.

44 posted on 04/28/2015 3:15:15 PM PDT by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: Mechanicos

Most of the mainline denominational churches have become liberal and apostate.

Apostate is leaving the faith, or deny the faith, the Gospel of Jesus Christ.


45 posted on 04/28/2015 3:17:01 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (BeThe Keystone Pipe like ProjectR : build it already Congre)
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To: Agamemnon

“So then you turn around and you choose to parrot a poll by the liberal Pew organization peddled uncritically in one of the most avowedly liberal “news” sources on the web?”

I did not “parrot” the article(it is not a poll). I am trying to make people aware of what is being written about Christianity today.

In my comment I clearly stated that the author claimed this, not that I was stating it.

If you believe Americans are too stupid or weak to confront what is being written and are not able to discern bias then that is your opinion. I disagree. I think good Americans and good Christians should be aware of what is being written and be able to analyze what is true and what is false.


46 posted on 04/28/2015 3:29:11 PM PDT by detective
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To: VanDeKoik

If they are mega churches does that mean lots of people go there, why ditch them?


47 posted on 04/28/2015 3:29:34 PM PDT by Jolla
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To: detective
Christians who belong to any church that follows man's perversion of God's word are being deceived by you know who. Example:

Commandment # 2. “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

#4. “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

The Catholic Bible's Ten Commandments: 1. I, the Lord, am your God. You shall not have other gods besides me. 2. You shall not take the name of the Lord God in vain 3. Remember to keep holy the Lord's Day 4. Honor your father and your mother 5. You shall not kill 6. You shall not commit adultery 7. You shall not steal 8. You shall not bear false witness 9. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife 10. You shall not covet your neighbor's goods

In the Hebrew translation of the 10 Commandments, can you spot the perversions in the Catholic Bible?

As well, the Roman Emperor Constantine along with the Roman Catholic Church perverted God's law, the 4th Commandment that begins with REMEMBER by moving the Sabbath day of worship from the last day to the 1st day of the week because it was both politically and religiously expedient. This is not meant to bash Catholicism but it is simply the facts of the history of Christianity. God never changes nor does His word but man has himself certainly changed God's word so it better fits into man's world. Those who are deceived by Satan continue to allow the perversion of God's word and His law to stand.

48 posted on 04/28/2015 3:32:23 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: Kartographer

What people need is not even so much lowercase-t truth as in facts, but uppercase-t Truth as in reliable God. You can boast, even correctly, about having all your theological facts down pat, and yet without that God all that is going to do is puff you up. Because you need God even to react correctly to that lowercase-t truth.


49 posted on 04/28/2015 3:37:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Kartographer

Incidentally, what Jesus said people ought to be hungering for is “Righteousness.”


50 posted on 04/28/2015 3:39:41 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: drypowder

Portmanteaus of Mosaic Law and Christianity do not work well because those are two distinct covenants.


51 posted on 04/28/2015 3:43:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: easternsky

Like the Bible says—the gate is narrow


52 posted on 04/28/2015 3:43:42 PM PDT by dandiegirl (BO)
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To: drypowder

Portmanteaus of Mosaic Law and Christianity do not work well because those are two distinct covenants.... many Christian principles are illustrated symbolically in Mosaic Law but the illustrations are not handled with respect by altering the language and begging the theological questions.


53 posted on 04/28/2015 3:47:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Jolla

Stereotypes abound and often they are incorrect.

Congregations huge and tiny are susceptible to being cults of personality. That is a problem as old as the epistles. When they are huge, however, the problem pervades the surrounding society more.

The seven churches listed in Revelation would all qualify as mega.


54 posted on 04/28/2015 3:52:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: detective

Most churches avoid discussing sin and avoid teaching prophecy like the plague. These churches never criticize government or popular culture.
Worthless and Godless.


55 posted on 04/28/2015 3:52:52 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats & GOPe delenda est. President zero gave us patient zero.)
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To: detective

If they depart, they were never one of us.


56 posted on 04/28/2015 3:57:05 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: zerosix

The word is actually “No one” not “The gates of hell.”

The gates of hell will not prevail against “the church” as a whole; all believers taken as a group.

Christ can deal with Christians individually in one sense and collectively in another, and individual congregations can be doomed to dwindle and wink out without losing anybody’s salvation. Congregations that have gotten collectively set in their ways are susceptible to that. Nobody there wants to adjust according to the urgings of the Holy Spirit so they get “spewed out.”


57 posted on 04/28/2015 3:59:52 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: grumpygresh

All should be taken in proportion. Just because politics is the closest thing to our eyes does not make it the most important thing to us, any more than a quarter is bigger than the sun because we can put it in our eye and block our view of that heavenly body.


58 posted on 04/28/2015 4:01:00 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Kartographer

We are growing because Pastor Steve is preaching the real word and people hunger for the unfettered truth.


That’s right.

Most people don’t want “touchy-feely” crap.


59 posted on 04/28/2015 4:04:22 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: laplata

Which is to yield to the influence of the atheists, who want to be able to puzzle everything out in their intellectual brains...

There is nothing wrong and everything right with touching and feeling IF THE OBJECT OF IT IS CORRECT....


60 posted on 04/28/2015 4:07:28 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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