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Gun-weary Senate makes surprise turn to legalize silencers
Pioneer Press ^ | 4-23-15 | Harry Potter

Posted on 04/24/2015 5:53:18 AM PDT by TurboZamboni

ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) — Minnesota's Senate added language to a bill Thursday that would legalize gun silencers — a surprise development as majority Democrats had shown little interest in changing the state's gun laws and a direct challenge to Gov. Mark Dayton's promise that such a measure would meet his veto pen. The silencer language was added to a grab bag of policy changes that would also mandate external investigations for officer-involved deaths, set ground rules for law enforcement's use of drones and restore voting rights to felons after they're released from prison. The full bill passed 39-22, with most Republicans voting against it. The debate quickly veered into Minnesota's gun laws, with a rural-district Democrat's successful amendment to lift the state's ban on silencers, also called suppressors, along with a handful of other gun law changes. It's an unexpected turn that puts the Senate in line with Republicans who control the House, which earlier this month passed a bill to legalize silencers. And it's a marked turnaround for gun rights advocates, who just two years ago fought off a push to expand background checks and tighten gun access in the wake of the 2013 Connecticut school shooting.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: banglist; marxdayton; minnesota; mn; suppressors

1 posted on 04/24/2015 5:53:18 AM PDT by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; NFHale

It’s too bad that the GD MN Senate wasn’t up for election at all last year.


2 posted on 04/24/2015 6:03:42 AM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Impy; TurboZamboni; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; NFHale

It was even worse that we couldn’t get a first-tier candidate to run against Gov. Dayton or Sen. Franken. We can get the Senate back in 2016, but Dayton will keep vetoing any conservative legislation through 2017 and Franken will keep voting 100% liberal through 2021.


3 posted on 04/24/2015 6:12:45 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: TurboZamboni

Now let’s get the federal Senate to legalize them - not require $200 tax and strict regulation, but outright legal & unrestricted as any basic safety device should be.


4 posted on 04/24/2015 6:13:37 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Hillary:polarizing/calculating/disingenuous/insincere/ambitious/inevitable/entitled/overconfident/se)
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To: TurboZamboni
Big whoop.
Suppressors should be standard issue. Not that many people are willing to paint a big red "X" on their backs with the feds by registering it (and the $200 tax is just an additional slap in the face)... but it's a step.

Europe, suppressors are every day affairs. It's just the neighborly thing to do... but then over there ALL gun owners have a big red "X" on their backs.

5 posted on 04/24/2015 6:17:06 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Not one statewide win at all in MN since T-Paw, even with 2 GOP landslide years. Very disappointing.


6 posted on 04/24/2015 6:18:38 AM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: TurboZamboni

They might as well legalize them. They are so easy to make..............


7 posted on 04/24/2015 6:28:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: Red Badger
They are so easy to make..

The right size freeze plugs, brass tubing and some lathe time.

That said, my unit had them in Viet Nam; not nearly as quiet as shown on TV.
With the gas valve closed, the AR still breaks the sound barrier.

It does moderate the sound and makes the direction of the source difficult to determine.

8 posted on 04/24/2015 6:49:41 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (BINGO!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

You can make a really good one from an old B&S lawnmower muffler.........................


9 posted on 04/24/2015 7:02:51 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: Red Badger

Back in the 1980s, a magazine called FIREPOWER showed how to make a simple silencer using a 2 liter soda pop bottle.

Someone even came up with a coupling to fit it to a handgun. Then the BATF stepped in.


10 posted on 04/24/2015 7:47:46 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (</P><P><)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I see Hollywood using silencers on revolvers in movies and TV all the time.
It is to laugh....................


11 posted on 04/24/2015 8:05:27 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: TurboZamboni

All that gunfire in North Minneapolis is keeping the residents awake.
Good idea to use silencers....


12 posted on 04/24/2015 9:30:50 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: AuH2ORepublican; Impy; Clintonfatigued; BillyBoy

Pawlenty or Coleman should’ve been dragged kicking and screaming to take out the Frankenstein trash.


13 posted on 04/24/2015 4:50:10 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: DUMBGRUNT; NFHale; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA

I remember when I was in grade school, this kid said his older brother had an AK-47 with a silencer and they shot it off in an alley and it just sounded like “a woosh of air”.

When I eventually learned that “silencers” merely reduced rather than nearly eliminated sound (like on TV) I remembered that kid’s story and knew he was full of it.


14 posted on 04/24/2015 5:22:26 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Impy

If you load for a subsonic muzzle velocity and can disable the action, no one will hear you out at your salt lick.

Supersonic and subsonic ammo through a suppressor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Icrm9m9bRpY

Note the action noise in this video.


15 posted on 04/24/2015 5:52:50 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (BINGO!)
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To: Impy

That kid was a slippery Cossack slut.


16 posted on 04/25/2015 5:24:52 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: Impy; DUMBGRUNT; NFHale; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA

RE “Silencers”:

Unless you’re using subsonic ammunition, they don’t “silence” anything. They reduce the dBs.

The more apt term is Suppressor, and they’re already legal in most states of the Union; just regulated by your friendly neighborhood F-Troop. Need a 200 buck Tax Stamp on a form, which you need to keep with you when the evil little bastard out and about at the range.

They’re MANDATORY in Finland; they have a pretty good gun culture up there, and because of population density, they like to keep the noise down.


17 posted on 04/25/2015 9:53:56 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Good for Finland, the world is far too noisy.


18 posted on 04/25/2015 5:28:58 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

you can still get adapters for oil filters...for a $200 fee to Uncle Sham.


19 posted on 04/26/2015 5:51:40 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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