Posted on 04/18/2015 4:39:28 AM PDT by Kaslin
That is a lie, most historians do not describe Jefferson as a “libertarian” something which didn’t even exist at the time, the European left had not started it yet.
That includes an awful lot of people who aren't libertarians.
"Fiscally conservative" means supporting balanced budgets.
That doesn't have much to do with what real, hardcore libertarians believe.
Would you describe yourself as fiscally conservative and socially liberal?
Which is the definition of libertarian.
Libertarianism makes small, limited government and low taxes, impossible.
Immigrants and broken people living in Sodom and Gomorrah, do not vote for the conservative goals of limited government and low taxes.
A rhetorical fig-leaf for moral-statists who happen to also prefer economic liberty.
Thats why we have a representative type government or are supposed to have one...to give voice to reason and general consensus
No, in the United States we have government to secure our unalienable Rights, among these Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
“You can potentially invest six percent of your salary for 50 years and then die and receive nothing.”
You are UNDERstating the case! That is the part that is deducted from your pay if you are a W-2 employee. In reality it is just a bookkeeping scam to make you believe your employer pays the other half. In fact if your employer raised your pay by the amount that he pays and them deducted it all from your paycheck nothing would change. So you have to call it twelve percent to be real and yes, you could pay it for fifty years and if you die and leave no dependents who are able to draw from your account it may as well have all been flushed. Those who live to be ninety or older benefit greatly while those who die relatively young are royally shafted. Such are the ways of socialism. Of course all are screwed by inflation, the method of calculating the CPI has been adjusted to keep down the cost of SS, otherwise it would be dead already. The dollars I draw now are worth about one nickel out of the first dollars I paid in. I was born in 1944 and if we had 1950 prices my wife and I could live on just my SS check, buy a new Ford sedan every two MONTHS, burn the two month old one and STILL have an income to live very well indeed. Our combined income for two years now is more than my father earned in his entire working lifetime and we scrape by.
As will I and I'm on Cruz-control!
Jesus Christ: You cant impeach Him and He aint gonna resign.
The freedom to eat what one chooses causes health problems in many peoples lives and leads them to start looking around for government charity to rescue them. Is a Diet Police a conservative idea?
Which is why libertarianism is dominant ideology in the county and the Libertarian party holds a majority in Congress...oh wait.
I guess they must all be too high to vote or something? Or maybe, just maybe, they don’t outnumber conservatives or liberals.
Now, once we get that government charity out of the way, as far as I'm concerned, you can eat whatever, drink whatever, smoke whatever and do whatever. If you run into trouble and cannot take care of yourself or your children ... [shrug]. Talk to your local church or neighborhood benevolent association. It's not my problem.
Fiscal Conservatism FIRST
then Social Liberalism ... but people need to have a sense of personal responsibility.
Within our current social climate and expectations, I say that social conservatism and fiscal conservatism need to be connected: because right now people do not have a sense of personal responsibility and they expect government to put a gun to my head and force me to pay for their stuff.
once we get that government charity out of the way, as far as I'm concerned, you can eat whatever
So that's a (provisional and temporary) yes to a Diet Police?
Libertarians are all jerks.
So according to you, we should have no moral or as few as possible standards to build our society and culture on, raise our children...
Anybody can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't affect me...?
So I don't need to pay for taking care of drug addicts, cure sexual diseases, rehab abusive alcoholics, protect young girls in the sex trade...
Live and let live...?
A rhetorical fig-leaf for moral-statists who happen to also prefer economic liberty.
So according to you, we should have no moral or as few as possible standards to build our society and culture on, raise our children...
Trying to compel moral behavior at the point of a gun does nothing to advance morality but does have disastrous side effects.
So I don't need to pay for taking care of drug addicts, cure sexual diseases,
Government, not drug use or sex, makes you do that.
rehab abusive alcoholics,
So you want to bring back Prohibition?
protect young girls in the sex trade...
By driving the sex trade into the black market we lose the ability to regulate it with age limits.
Abortion. Euthanasia. Drug use. Prostitution.
Is there one of the above that libertarianism isn’t okay with?
As for abortion, while the Libertarian Party (which the political philosophy of libertarianism predates by centuries) says abortion is likewise none of government's business, many libertarians, such as Libertarians for Life, recognize that unborn human beings are persons and have the same right to life as born persons.
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