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it is a good read - I still don’t think a wedding cake is a hill to die on - but I respect the faith of those who think it is - and I think they should have that right.
I take it further, when the laws of the tyrant go against the Laws of God, the tyrant must be opposed. Be prepared to pay the price, re: Bonheoffer.
Here is the whole concept: “1 Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you”
So if I judge homosexuality wrong, no problem to be judged as I judged them.
In th Bible, the word “judge” means determining a punishment. This is evident to those familiar with the Bible, so it would be natural that the precise definition of this word escapes non-believers. So, as Christians, we do not punish non-believers for their actions, that is God’s job. However, we are called to warn our bothers and sisters.
I've never understand that. We all get judged anyway.
Certainly, we are to obey "authorities", but those authorities must be obeying God.
They are "higher authorities". God is the Highest Authority.
"But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever." - 1 Timothy 5:8
We are to provide for our families, but not protect them from violent attack from "authorities"? Nonsense. Scripture never says, "Allow your wife to be beaten and raped."
"Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men." - Acts 5:29
God is sovereign. Case closed.
I like to ask the liberals that I talk to if they know the difference between being judgmental and using your judgment. When they say that they do, I tell them that I think they are lying to me, and that I don’t think they do know the difference. Telling a cigarette smoker that they are doing something bad is using your judgment. Telling them they are bad people is being judgmental. Then I move the discussion to anal sex. Then they quickly try to move the discussion to something else. That’s when the amusing part begins.
Why didn’t liberals just obey the law when sodomy was illegal?
Why didn’t liberals. like Obama’s pal Bill Ayers, just obey the law against making bombs and blowing up people and buildings?
Should liberals have just obeyed the law when “separate but equal” was the law?
While the smoke is coming out of those strange buildings?
Christians are supposed to "render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's and unto God the things that are God's." Meaning we obey the law except when the law goes against God's word. When there is a conflict, we obey God (of course!). If I were a baker or a wedding photographer, I would consider my participation in a gay "marriage" to be minor, so trivial that the moral dimension did not apply.
However, when the thugs decide that they can compel people to participate, then participation sets a precedent implying that we must obey unjust laws. That is bad. It also sets the bar lower, and eventually (probably quickly) the thugs will reach a level that does matter to me. For that reason, we must oppose the incrementalism of the far left at every step. We must fight them on gun control - repealing even the most apparently trivial of gun laws so that they don't have a nose in our tent. We must fight them at the first encroachment on our fundamental freedoms, not just when the violations reach the level of immediate danger, and we must roll back the many gains they have made.
"You will bake me a cake!" Of course. "My rate for that cake is $17,000. Oh, you're going elsewhere? Good bye." Or perhaps, "I'll see you in court and fight you until I die of old age and broke, but you will get neither a cake nor a single dollar of an honest person's money."
"You will photograph my 'wedding'!" Of course. "Oh dear, I'm a bit under the weather. I must cancel at the last minute." Or perhaps, "I'll see you in court and fight you until every totalitarian is stopped, but you will get neither a snapshot nor a single dime of a good person's money."
"You will host my gay reception in the B&B you call home!" No problem. "Oh dear, septic problem, trucks are here and pumping, but it won't be available today. I found you another location though - the WalMart manager said you could gather in his parking lot." Or perhaps, "I'll see you in court and fight you until we finally return to a legal system that respects property rights, but you will never set foot on my property nor will you steal a single penny of a free person's money."
We need to listen to Churchill's "We Shall Fight on the Beaches" speech and take that approach to fighting the evil we face today. This is far more dangerous than the enemy our greatest generation faced, particularly because it is an internal enemy and our White House itself is controlled by America's most dangerous enemy.
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“Their favorite verse is Matthew 7:1, which says “judge not lest ye also be judged.” They quote it every time a Christian expresses an opinion...”
And they take it out of context. In this verse/siituation, it was directed specically at Pharisees who were ultra hypocrites.
The whole Bible is a manual on how to judge people and situations. God commands Christians to judge — righteously.
“Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God.”- Benjamin Franklin
Suppose you were told to identify and round up a particular group of people to be loaded on rail cars to be sent to camps.
That’s the “progressive” idea of “christianity.”
What we have is the Totalitarian Mindset exerting its control over behavior. This mindset does not accept facts or Christian values that reject their policy. For them 2 + 2 = 5 and no one dares to say otherwise. It is a cancer taking America to a oligarchical collectivist state a la Orwellian Oceania and Airstrip One. Christianity and Conservatives will be the last bastion to do warfare against these savages.
Liberals always remember Matthew 7:1. They always forget Matthew 18:15-17:
“Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.”