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Obama and Congress reach deal over Iran nuclear talks
BBC News ^ | 04/14/15 | staff

Posted on 04/14/2015 2:50:54 PM PDT by keat

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To: nwrep; SoCal Pubbie; Usagi_yo
What Obama is proposing is a bilateral agreement with another country. The lifting of sanctions is the consideration for Iran obligations, Iran's mythical obligations. It will be treaty in both form and substance. Mark Levin is right.

Iran will get everything they want: the removal of sanctions. All Obama needs is thirty-four of the most left-wing Democrat Senators to vote in favor of this treaty. Then Obama wins and both Israel and America lose: lose their security and their future.

Some of us stand by and bleat that it will not be a treaty, allowing Obama a free hand. Those who take that position are as supportive of Israel as Caspar Weinberger or James Baker was and is.

81 posted on 04/14/2015 11:01:04 PM PDT by Praxeologue ( ')
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He did...... Mark Levin is livid !


82 posted on 04/15/2015 12:43:46 AM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: keat

They’re going to raise our taxes and take our freedom.

What you thought it would be good news for you?


83 posted on 04/15/2015 1:01:20 AM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: keat

There’s absolutely no reason for the Senate to make a deal on Iran. Obama should have been left hanging, but... These are the Republicans. Obama offered something to their cronies, so they’re playing ball.


84 posted on 04/15/2015 5:37:06 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: DJ Frisat

Mark Levin was all over it last night. Obama no longer needs 67% of the senate for ratification. The senate needs 67% to stop ratification.


85 posted on 04/15/2015 5:39:17 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: ColdOne

It’s not good. It’s really bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssBPKU-3z_A


86 posted on 04/15/2015 5:40:48 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Genoa

The legitimates Obama’s illegal treaty and effectively gives the president sole power to make treaties.


87 posted on 04/15/2015 5:43:09 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: don-o

You are 180 deg wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssBPKU-3z_A


88 posted on 04/15/2015 5:44:25 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Praxeologue
Some of us stand by and bleat that it will not be a treaty...

I have not seen a single Republican Senator, including the most ardent pro-Israeli hawks in the Senate, make the claim that it is a treaty. Just because some talk show host makes such a claim does not make it so.

Not every bilateral agreement is a treaty. Otherwise everything is a treaty...

89 posted on 04/15/2015 5:47:28 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: demshateGod

Yup, heard that. Who would ever predict that these jackasses would once again snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?


90 posted on 04/15/2015 6:20:01 AM PDT by DJ Frisat (Proudly providing the NSA with provocative textual content since 1995!)
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To: nwrep
The treaty with Iran that Obama is envisioning is not analogous to Yalta, Potsdam or GATT. It is not an executive agreement, even though practice has been to require simple majority Congressional approval for such agreements. It is not a treaty termination, where much of the litigation has focused.

Instead of ceding its oversight powers, the Senate should seek a USSC injunction. I'll be disappointed if Cruz does not advocate this course.

91 posted on 04/15/2015 6:39:45 AM PDT by Praxeologue ( ')
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To: nwrep
I have not seen a single Republican Senator, including the most ardent pro-Israeli hawks in the Senate, make the claim that it is a treaty. Just because some talk show host makes such a claim does not make it so.

Just because Obama claims it will be an executive agreement does not make it so.

That White House talking point is what the MSM is parroting this morning.

It's a treaty.

92 posted on 04/15/2015 7:15:05 AM PDT by Praxeologue ( ')
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To: demshateGod

I am willing to rethink. I could be wrong. If Cruz votes Nay, I will figure I was definitely wrong.

However, I was sorry to hear Levin calling for war. Is that all we got as an option to “war by other means” (diplomacy)?

Is there another way for Congress to “get some skin in the game”?


93 posted on 04/15/2015 8:09:07 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: keat

Iran’s nuclear programme was reached after a fifty billion dollar bribe was set the gold rush in on boys were all going to fat city on this deal.


94 posted on 04/25/2015 9:22:48 AM PDT by Vaduz
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