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Seriously? These people have never heard of index funds and or don't know why long term they almost always outperform actively managed portfolios? Either these people are dumber than a pile of rocks or they have their nose up Wall Street's @$$. My guess is the latter.
1 posted on 04/13/2015 12:02:34 PM PDT by NRx
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The analysis concluded that, over the past 10 years, the five pension funds have paid more than $2 billion in fees to money managers and have received virtually nothing in return...

I thought that was what "money managers" did...

2 posted on 04/13/2015 12:04:44 PM PDT by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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Yes they have gotten something. The received substantial donations to Democrat candidates.


5 posted on 04/13/2015 12:14:51 PM PDT by ricmc2175
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They keep paying fees because they’re secret kickbacks. Or? Otherwise they could just invest in low cost funds like vanguard and many of fidelity s or American century’s. Follow the money and look for who leaves the state offices much much much richer than when they went in


7 posted on 04/13/2015 12:17:18 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (A brilliantly intelligent comment sent thru an amazingly stupid spell checker)
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I don’t believe this story is true. Given that it appears in the New York Times gives me additional reason to doubt it.


8 posted on 04/13/2015 12:21:48 PM PDT by SSS Two
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Either these people are dumber than a pile of rocks or they have their nose up Wall Street's @$$. My guess is the latter.

Or the New York Times is reporting flat out inaccurate "news". Did you consider that?

9 posted on 04/13/2015 12:23:14 PM PDT by SSS Two
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Obama’s been pee’ing on America’s leg telling them “the rain is warm today, isn’t it?” for almost 8 years now...

It’s getting a bit RIPE out there..
However; New Yorker’s LOVE the acrid stench and metallic trace of it..

Where “Stealing” is an art.. even good entertainment..
Where “break a leg” and “get a nose full” are idioms..


10 posted on 04/13/2015 12:23:27 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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Read between the lines...

This comes from Bill de Blasio..who HATES Wall Street, and who just refused to endorse Hillary, because she and Bill are too close to Wall Street

11 posted on 04/13/2015 12:24:31 PM PDT by ken5050 (If Hillary is elected president, what role will Huma Abedin have in the White House? Scary, eh?)
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What do you expect from criminals?


12 posted on 04/13/2015 12:28:19 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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Building the case for the Theresa Ghilarducci proposal to nationalize all pension plans, as traders on Wall Street are too greedy and corrupt to be trusted with your retirement. If this is in the news then they are getting closer to pulling the trigger on it.


14 posted on 04/13/2015 12:31:38 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Maybe these pensions can find some nice mortgage based derivatives to invest in.


17 posted on 04/13/2015 1:08:19 PM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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Any fund will have transaction costs, and even index funds need trades to keep them in line with indices.

We always use the net return (net of fees) when evaluating managers.


20 posted on 04/13/2015 2:05:45 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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These people have never heard of index funds and or don't know why long term they almost always outperform actively managed portfolios?

If you are retired and need an income stream, index funds don't perform.

http://investorplace.com/2014/03/dividend-investors-index-funds-wmt-yhoo-brk-a-brk-b/

22 posted on 04/13/2015 3:16:29 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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Wall Street: sucking off of $4 Trillion that was "pumped" by the Fed.

These people are not "investors." Investors used to be about economic growth, industry, and jobs. Today's Wall Street hucksters are nothing more than gambling addicts sitting at the Fed slot machine.

When this bubble bursts, there will be blood on the walls.


23 posted on 04/13/2015 3:40:18 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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Whenever conservatives talk about privatizing social security the first things liberals say is that the stock market is too unstable for common folk. Then they go right ahead and invest civil pension money with a bunch of corrupt cronies.


24 posted on 04/13/2015 3:43:50 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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